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1881 help please before i go mad!!

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mgnv

mgnv Report 6 Jun 2010 00:45

In Dean St 1861 [rg9/175/78/18], Fredk Swilly was 23, so he ought to be 27/28 by now

Deaths Mar 1866 (>99%)
TWILLEY Frederick H 26 Strand 1b 399

In Denman St 1871 [rg10/133/73/49], Susan Swilley's marr status is "W".

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jun 2010 23:09

Just posting for info

Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
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TWILLEY Alfred Ernest Strand 1b 452


James

James Report 5 Jun 2010 23:00

glitter baby - yes thats her.

in the 1901 the family had moved to Ormond Buildings, London.

choccy - that is also the death record for her husband Frederick

thanks

J

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Jun 2010 22:59

Something wrong with transcrptions but......

Marriages Dec 1865 Auger Charles W. London 1a 127
Denton Eliza Kensington 1a 127
Harper George Bradford Marylebone 1a 127
Strange Thomas Kensington 1a 127
>>>Twilley Susan Ann Kensington 1a 127

Gwyn

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Jun 2010 22:58




Deaths Mar 1866 (>99%)
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TWILLEY Frederick H 26 Strand 1b 399


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jun 2010 22:55

1891 is this her ?

Name: Rose A Churchill
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: St. Anne, London, England

Civil parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Westminster
Town: Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Churchill 32
Rose A Churchill 26
Rose A Churchill 7
Frederick Churchill 3
Susan E Churchill 1
Bridger Curran 57



Just using Rose



1901 also gives St Annes as birthplace

James

James Report 5 Jun 2010 22:49

sorry i have just re-read that and it isnt clear.

frederick junior is on there! Frederick senior died circa 1866!

James

James Report 5 Jun 2010 22:47

glitter baby - thanks.

the 1871 is them although it is curious Frederick junior isnt on there and there is an Ernest. To be honest though I havent begun looking at her siblings yet to check it all out so the limited info I have on her siblings may be not be 100% unreliable.

J

James

James Report 5 Jun 2010 22:43

hi all - thanks for your help.

joy she was born in Strand london.
she was baptised in 1868
her address in 1883 when she married was Little George St, London

gwyn - the family you have found is her elder brother Frederick who was also a jewel case maker.

many thanks!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jun 2010 22:40

1871 some things match but others do not

Name: Rosetta Swilley
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Dean; St John
Civil parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St James Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 289
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Swilley 30
Frederick Swilley 11
Ernest Swilley 9
Rosetta Swilley 6
Patrick Wallace 42



?????



Does look like Twilley on image

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Jun 2010 22:29

A family link to these.....?

This must be another person, but her father is shown as a jewellery case maker.......

Name: Rosetta Mary Ann Twilley b. 10th March
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Mar 1884
Father's Name: Frederick Twilley
Mother's Name: Emily Twilley
Parish: St James, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex

Family were living at 116 Drummond Street.

Gwyn

Joy

Joy Report 5 Jun 2010 22:25

Yes, I see Frederick, with wife, son and lodger at 78, Whitfield St, St Pancras

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jun 2010 22:21

Births Dec 1864 (>99%)
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TWILLEY Rosetta Ann Strand 1b 487


Possible birth






Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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CHURCHILL William Pancras 1b 242
PARKER Alfred Henry Pancras 1b 242
Twilley Rosetta Ann Pancras 1b 242
TWILLRY Rosetta Ann Pancras 1b 242
Wymer Louisa Lucy Pancras 1b 242

Joy

Joy Report 5 Jun 2010 22:17

Before I start to look, whereabouts was she born, please?

James

James Report 5 Jun 2010 22:16

aaaggghhhh!

If anyone can help me locate someone on the 1881 I would be eternally grateful. It is the last gap I need to fill for this relative.

i am looking for Rosetta Ann Twilley. Born October 1864. Died 1901. Married Frederick Churchill in 1883.

i have her in every other census and the family always lived in Central London. I have no reason to think they would be elsewhere and were clearly poor so I cant see them travelling.

I cant find her parents or three of her siblings either so i wonder whether they are all together and there is a transcription error?

Mother - Susan Twilley (nee Maides) Born 1840
Father Frederick Twilley born 1837 (a jewel case maker)
Sibling - Frederick born 1859 (found him living independently in Warren St, London)
Sibling - Alfred born 1861
Sibling - Susan born 1863

I have tried some wildcard searches and tried different spellings, including 'Swiley' as they have been recorded as that elsewhere.

If anyone fancies a look a fresh pair of eyes might make all the difference.

I Would be grateful as it is driving me to utter distraction!!!

Many thanks

J