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Can anyone tell me what the next steps are when you can't find an Australian (Victorian) birth certificate via the BDM office? I am searching for my grandfather John Joseph Dennis Williamson (b. 12 Dec 1917) and his father Joseph Patrick Adderley, who changed his name to Joseph Patrick Williamson (1873-1941). I have marriage certificates for both of these men (though only one for Joseph who married 3 times) but can't find birth certificates. I need these to try and trace their lineage. Any ideas? Also, any ideas where I can find out when he startted using the Williamson name? Thaks in advance.
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Hi Rebecca.
Is this his birth registration. ( Melbourne Victoria )
Josh....is abbreviated for Joseph, as is Jos.......Jno is John.
Surname: WILLIAMSON
Given Names: Jno Josh Dennis Adderley
Event: B
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Josh
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Liln MAGUIRE
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: CARL CENT ( Carlton )
Death Place:
Year: 1917
Reg. Number: 27429
Here it is again registered under ADDERLY-WILLIAMSON ( same Reg No: 27429)
Surname: ADDERLEY-WILLIAMSON
Given Names: Jno Josh Dennis
Event: B
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Josh
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Liln MAGUIRE
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: CARL C
Death Place:
Year: 1917
Reg. Number: 27429
Cert. can be ordered and downloaded for Victoria....using Reg. No
VICTORIA..... B.D.M's Enquire: ( See Historical Search )
http://www.dvc.vic.gov.au/bdm.htm
This would be his service record enlistment WW11
Seen as John Dennis Williamson
Service Record
Name WILLIAMSON, JOHN DENNIS
Service Australian Army
Service Number V306650
Date of Birth 12 Dec 1917
Place of Birth CARLTON, VIC
Date of Enlistment 6 Jan 1942
Locality on Enlistment FLEMINGTON, VIC
Place of Enlistment Unknown
Next of Kin WILLIAMSON, FLORENCE
Date of Discharge 10 Oct 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 24 Works Company
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Tony ( Victoria )
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I would say this is his parents marriage.
Surname: MAGUIRE
Given Names: Lillian Ethel
Event: M
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: WILLIAMSON
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jos Patk
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place:
Death Place:
Year: 1916
Reg. Number: 9873
Just a suggestion.....Regarding Joseph Patrick Williamson.
Its possible he was born Joseph Patrick "Adderley" Williamson....OR...its a hand me down family name.
For instance..... If he was born o/seas.... ie: ( U.K ) some immigrants carried there mothers or grandmothers maiden name to new countries of settlement. Some immigrants went even as far as adding their birth place to their name ( There is also a village "Adderley" in Shropshire, England ).......This was not an unusual thing to do, and its also possible as another suggestion.....that one of his ancestors was an "Adderley" and the name handed down through the generations.....As you can see he... Joseph has handed it to his son John Joseph Dennis Adderley Williamson
This appears to be a sibling of John Joseph Dennis Adderley Williamson....who has been given his mothers maiden name ( MAGUIRE) as a second name.
Birth:
Surname: WILLIAMSON
Given Names: Michael Maguire
Event: B
Sex:
Spouse Surname/Father: Joseph Patrick
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Liln Ethel MAGUIRE
Age:
Age Code:
Birth Place: NORTHCOTE
Death Place:
Year: 1919
Reg. Number: 21813
Death: ( Mother registered as.. Ethel )
Surname: WILLIAMSON
Given Names: Mic Maguire
Father: Williamson Josh
Mother: Ethel MAGUIRE
Death Place: CARLTON
Age: 3
Age Code:
Year: 1922
Reg Number: 12301
Event: D
Surname: WILLIAMSON
Given Names: Denis
Father: Williamson Jos
Mother: Ethel MAGUIRE
Death Place: CARLTON
Age: 1
Age Code:
Year: 1925
Reg Number: 12762
Event: D
My grandmother b.1888 came to Australia and did use, and many of her siblings/cousins/2nd cousins.ect.... used the name "Burrow" in their forenames...handed down through the generations from 1700 in Yorkshire..of my 4x great grandmother Jane Burrow
I am not saying this is conclusive in your case without further investigation...but worth thinking about.
Tony....:>))
ps. my great grandmother was a Williamson ( Essex )
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This may be of some help -
"Findmypast.com.au "are giving Free 24 hours access to Australian records.no CC/DC details needed.
Liz
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Thanks so much for your help, everyone, this is FABULOUS information, and will be so exciting for my dad. I did not check this site until today, not realising that I needed to check back for responses. I thought they would go into my email inbox...hence the slow response from me. I just figured nobody had answered.
Really appreciate the wonderful assistance you have all given me.
Rebecca
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Hi Rebecca.
Just so you know for future threads or posts you make.
On the left hand side of your screen near the top you will see "Tools"
Tools
My bookmarks
My thread participation
Advanced search
When you need to check a posting or a thread you have started on the site, or responded to "Regardless of which Board you post it on".... it is archived in "My thread participation" and when you "click" on "My thread participation" it will show you a list of every post on GR youv'e added to on the boards, which then allows you to check back for answers by "clicking" on the post you are interested in.
After you start a thread/posting you can also "Bookmark" it...... by clicking on "My Bookmarks"
This also "archives" that post you made or someone else made, that you might want to check back on regulary.
GR do not email you about a response to a thread/posting you made.
Tony...:>))
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