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Wow. thanks everyone a lot of info to look through! will digest and read through all the replies. As a novice to this sort of thing I am extremely pleasantly surprised at the amount of help. Thanks again to all of you, will post more once I have gone through all your replies.

possible death as can't find in 1901 -


Deaths Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Jones Alice Anne 48 Birkenhead 8a 384

1881 England Census
Name: Ann A. Jones
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Addington, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 6 South View
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Jones 37
Ann A. Jones 36
Beatrice Jones 14
Henry W. Jones 7
Frances A. Jones 6
Florence Jones 3
Walter Jones 1




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3589; Folio: 80; Page: 5; GSU roll: 1341859.

possibly -


1861 England Census
Name: Alice Wilson
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Addington, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin S Clay 28
Elizabeth Smith 58
Nancy Mc Iennor 32
Alice Wilson 18 ****
Hannah Sparks 16
James Mea 21




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2648; Folio: 27; Page: 55; GSU roll: 543005.

1851 England Census
Name: Hallis Wilson
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Addington, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Great Addington
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Thrapston
Sub-registration district: Thrapston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
William Wilson 30
Jane Wilson 30
Hallis Wilson 6
Thomas Wilson 4
Robert Wilson 1




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1745; Folio: 240; Page: 7; GSU roll: 87700.

Births Dec 1844 (>99%)
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WILSON Ann Alice Thrapston 15 360


Great Addington is in Thrapston registration district

This looks like her in 1871 - calling herself Alice -

right area for her subsequent second marriage -


1871 England Census
Name: Alice A Doughton
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Addington, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Bromley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Rawson 52
Charlotte E Rawson 40
Herbert E Rawson 18
Mary S Rawson 14
Emily F Rawson 12
Charlotte A Rawson 10
Ellen B Rawson 6
Ethel Rawson 4
Sherard Rawson 2
Margaret Thomas 41
Emily Wheban 23
Ellen Walters 23
Martha Ware 19
Alice A Doughton 26 ****
Henry Dowling 35




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 874; Folio: 110; Page: 4; GSU roll: 827771.

More information from the actual register


Name: Henry Doughton

Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Ann Alice Wilson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Sep 1866
Parish: St Saviour, Paddington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Doughton
Spouse Father Name: William Wilson labourer


from image:-

Henry

Of Full Age
Bachelor
Occupation:- Shoemaker
Address:- 4 Warwick Place

Father's occupation:- Shoemaker


Ann Alice

Of Full Age
Spinster
No occupation given
Address:- 4 Warwick Place

Father's occupation:- Labourer

Witnesses:- Joseph Walker and Elizabeth Walker


everyone could sign their names


BUT Joseph and Elizabeth Walker also signed another certificate on one of the 2 pages showing on the image .... so they may have been what is often called "professional" witnesses ...... people who were paid a small sum to witness the marriage, rather than actual friends or relations of the the couple.



Of Full Age ...... means over 21

Couples often gave the same address if one of them actually lived in another parish ....... it saved money!



I'd like to see if we can find Ann Alice Doughton on the 1871 Census. I did have a look and couldn't see her






sylvia

and this looks like her second marriage .... from www.freebmd.org.uk


Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)

Doughton Ann Alice Bromley 2a 471
Jones Henry Bromley 2a 471




sylvia

Yes, you're right. Note that the late refers to her naming status, not Mr Doughton's mortal status. It would say the same whether she was a widow or divorcee, although, given the date, she was probably a widow.

Name: Henry Doughton ...of Portobello Road, Kensington
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 5 Feb 1867
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Death Date: 05 Feb 1867
Parish: All Souls Cemetery, Kensal Green
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
County: Middlesex


Gwyn

Name: Henry Doughton
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Ann Alice Wilson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Sep 1866
Parish: St Saviour, Paddington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry Doughton
Spouse Father Name: William Wilson labourer


might have been a brief marriage

Name: Henry Doughton
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 31
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 73 (click to see others on page)

Hi Steve

That would be right what your'e thinking, Ann Alice Wilson married a Doughton and then after her husbands death she marries again to a mr Jones. If you put some names ,dates and places on your thread, you will get some good help from people on here. Does your great grand mother have a father (Jones) named on the certificate ?

Simon

Hi everyone. Bit of a novice but learning! had a birth certificate for my great grandmother, not got very far yet, and have a question on her mothers name. The entry under column 5 for mothers name and maiden name it has:

ann
alice
jones
late
doughton
formerly
wilson

would I be right in thinking that she had been married before? to a mr Doughton, but had been born a wilson?

any help gratefully recieved

thanks


steve