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Eliza Goforth, born 1853 Cape Town, South Africa.

Married in 1871 Thomas Moore. jfm quarter

1871 census I found Eliza Moore, "unmarried" living in the Kent Council Lunatic Asylum, and she was born in Cape Town...

Is this her, even though she is listed as unmarried, or just a co-incidence with both being born in Cape Town??

Thoughts please

Kathlyn

How do you know who she married?


Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Goforth Eliza Rochford 4a 203
Hawes Harriett Rochford 4a 203
Howes Harriet Rochford 4a 203
Howes Harriett Rochford 4a 203
Moor Thomas Rochford 4a 203
Simons James Rochford 4a 203

Glitter baby,

Out of the two possibles, the Thomas Moore gave me the info re. Cape of Good Hope birth place for Eliza.

1861 just for info

Name: Eliza Goforth
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Cape of Good Hope

Civil parish: South Shoebury
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: Military Barracks at Shoeburyness
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Goforth 37 Beverley, Yorks.
Louisa Goforth 37 Farnham, Hampshire
Harriette Goforth 12
Eliza Goforth 7
Maria Goforth 5
Mary Ann Goforth 2
William Goforth 10 Mo
William Shorrock 28
Mary Ellen Shorrock 29
Morris Shorrock 4
William H Shorrock 1

Thanks for that Glitter baby, I found that census info and wanted to find where each of the siblings ended up.

1871?

Name: Eliza Simonds
[Eliza Goforth]
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Female
Where born: Cape of Good Hope
Civil parish: South Shoebury
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: South Shoebury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Goforth 47
William Goforth 11
Maria Goforth 15
Mary Ann Goforth 12
Eliza Simonds 19

Class: RG10; Piece: 1670; Folio: 63; Page: 16; GSU roll: 829958.

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Marriages Dec 1847

DYNAN Catherine Alverstoke 7 52
>>>GOFORTH William Alverstoke 7 52
GROVES George Alverstoke 7 52
Loader Harriett Alverstoke 7 52
>>>MERRETT Louisa Alverstoke 7 52
Roach Henry Alverstoke 7 52
Stanton Patrick Alverstoke 7 52
Viven Elizabeth Alverstoke 7 52

1871 Census shows Louisa b. Fareham, Hampshire which is near Alverstoke.


Gwyn

Might as well have this one


1871
Name: Harriett Saxton
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Cape of Good Hope
Civil parish: South Shoebury
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: South Shoebury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
William Saxton 28
Harriett Saxton 25
Henry Saxton 3
Alice Saxton 1
Frederick Saxton 3 months



Marriages Jun 1867 (>99%)
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Flewers Henry Rochford 4a 234
GARNHAM Mary Ann Rochford 4a 234
GOFORTH Harriet Rochford 4a 234
Saxton William Rochford 4a 234

1871 Census


She's a servant

Name: Eliza Moore
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Servant <<<<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Cape of Good Hope
Civil parish: Maidstone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: West Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: Kent County Lunatic Asylum

Sarah Bates 21
Eliza Moore 19 Attendant
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all the attendants say they are unmarried or widowed



so either this is the wrong Eliza Moore, or she is lying


The census was taken on the night if 2nd April 1871, and I suppose it is also possible that she ahd only just married Thomas ...... and whoever filled in the census did not know that.


You also have to ask what was she doing in Kent when they were married in Essex, and her family was living in Essex in 1861




The other 1871 Census that GB found with Eliza Simonds staying with her mother Louisa Goforth, widow, Laundrees, is more likely to be the Eliza that you are looking for!


so it seems that she married James Simons





sylvia

and this looks like the Simons family in 1881

1881 Census

Name: Eliza Simons
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Cape of Good Hope British Subject

Civil parish: South Shoebury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Gothic Row
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering

James Simons 33 b.ca 1848, London, Middlesex, Driver Royal Artillery
Eliza Simons 29
Albert Simons 9
Louisa Simons 7
Laura Simons 5
Frank Simons 2
James Simons



and this looks like James in 1871


1871 Census

Name: James Simons
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Occupant Of Hub (Occupant)
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: South Shoebury
Town: South Shoebury
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Great Wakering
ED, institution, or vessel: Artillery Barracks

He's a Driver in the Royal Artillery ..... and says he is Unmarried!




sylvia

Amazing!

I am searching for something entirely different - and my nan lived at this address in 1911 (18 Gothic Row)

Small world isn't it??

Kim