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I have my certificate issued by the apprenticeship and training council, for the electrical contracting industry dated 1958
stating registration as an indentured apprentice as a journeyman electrician, and my name is on the national register of that council
(issued by the then Ministry of Works, Lambeth Bridge house london S.E.1.)

Bob

Interesting and informative podcast from the NA

'Apprenticeship records for family historians'
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/podcasts/

Also talks about Journeymen and Masters.

Chris

~~~~Hello Joy~~~~~

Thanks for this. I may check with my local record office to see what they hold. I'll also check the internet to see what it says about the Guildhall.

Actually, I think I remember an episode of WDYTYR which mentions a specialist occupation where they held records...was it something to do with gold. Alas my ancestors were more down to earth. (Actually that doesn't bother me much ;) )

Thanks again.

I doubt it, Lesley. But it may depend on the trade. If surviving, they would be in records offices, I should think, or, in some cases, the Guildhall in London.


http://www.talktalk.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0029169.html
A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully qualified employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade guilds; it derives from the French journée (‘a day’) because journeymen were paid daily.

Each guild normally recognized three grades of worker – apprentices, journeymen, and masters. As a qualified tradesman, a journeyman might have become a master with his own business but most remained employees.

A journeyman is not, as you might think, someone who travels around, but is the equivalent of today's time-served apprentice, and is often self-employed, so able to work where he wants to, rather than work for a master.

Thanks Chrissie.

Had a quick look but didn't see any menion records. Will try and have a proper look through the links etc

Thanks :)

Can i jump in here !!!!
Thats great, ive been wondering what a journeyman was for ages,
(never thought of google,but even when i did, i didn't get much,so copy & pasted yours)
Thanks
Sue

Hi,

You might find something on here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman

I just googled Journeyman

Chris

Do any records still exist regarding people's occupations such as how people became journeymen or masters etc?

Many thanks