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Just to thank you all again. First time I have asked for help so am a little unsure of prcedure. Carolyn

Hi Carolyn

Thanks for the pm and you are welcome. Below are possibles as children of Thomas and Emma. As Emma's middle name is Gabrielle I think the Gabrielle is very likely to be theirs which would put then in or around Bromley Kent in 1914 and maybe in 1917 for the Margaret birth.

Wendy x

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Carrier Harry Bates Richmond S. 2a 1019 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Carrier Gabrielle M Bates Bromley 2a 1151 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
CARRIER Margaret E Bates Bromley 2a 772 Scan available - click to view

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From Carolyn
Thanks Christine I do have his birth cert. no father I just hoped someone would come up with something. Thanks so much for your help. Carolyn

Christine

I think this is Emma in 1871

Emma Bates
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary A
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bates 50
Mary A Bates 48
Benjamin Bates 16
Elizabeth Bates 14
John Bates 11
Emma Bates 8
Hannah Bates 6
Tom Bates 4
Mary Bates 2

Well done Somerset Girl, how do you get access to Consular records

Wendy x

Franks birth

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
CARRIER Dorothy Agnes Westbury W 5a 119 Scan available - click to view
>>>CARRIER Frank Chelsea 1a 355 Scan available - click to view

Here's the birth reg for Thomas.

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
CARRIER Thomas Owen Bedford 3b 318

Do you have the cert?

If she was unmarried and no father named then it won't be possible to find out who was the father.

Christine

If it is the right Thomas this is possibly his wifes birth

Name: Emma Gabrielle Bates
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chelsea (1841-1981)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 301 (click to see others on page

I can't find a marriage

Is thisThomas 1865 in 1911 note son George was born in Paris, France.

Married 10 years had 3 children 2 living 1 died

Wendy

census search results 1911 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

CARRIER, Thomas Owen Head Married
10 years M 46 1865 Coachman Job Yard Biddenham Bedford VIEW
CARRIER, Emma Gabrielle Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Chelsea London VIEW
CARRIER, George Thomas Son M 5 1906 France Paris VIEW
CARRIER, Frank Son M 1 1910 Chelsea London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
375 Reference:
RG14PN375 RG78PN12 RD4 SD1 ED3 SN126

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea North Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Chelsea

Address:
67 Limerston Street County:
London

I am trying to find my gt.grandfather. My grandfather was Thomas Own Carrier b. 1864 Biddenham Bedford. His mother Mary Carrier was b. 1847 BiddenhamBeds. I have her on the 1861 census living at home in Biddenham . She then disappears leaving Thomas with her parents. She next appears in the 1881 census having died in Hackey London. Hence the brick wall Carolyn