Genealogy Chat

I'm tracing members of my late mother's parents' families. Her father was Alwin Spencer Hopkins (known as Spencer). He ran several pubs in Birmingham and Wolverhampton from 1900 till 1940s. His wife was Ada Maddox of Aston. Both had several siblings. I've traced the siblings' births but some have disappeared from the records. If anyone can fill in gaps I'd be most grateful.

Geoff

Is this census of any help - you could try a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family - Liz

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HOPKINS, Alwyn Spencer
Address: 76 Franchise St Handsworth




HOPKINS, Alwyn Spencer Head Married M 31 1880 Beer House Manager Snitterfield Warwickshire VIEW
HOPKINS, Ada Wife Married
7 years F 31 1880 Assisting In Business Aston Warwickshire VIEW
HOPKINS, Fredrick Son M 6 1905 Handworth Staffs VIEW
HOPKINS, Leonard Son M 4 1907 Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
HOPKINS, Maude Hilda Daughter F 2 1909 Handsworth Staffs VIEW
BARNES, Nellie Servant Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Wednesbury Staffs VIEW



RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17247 Reference:
RG14PN17247 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED42 SN81

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
42 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
76 Franchise St Handsworth County:
Staffordshire

Thanks, Liz that's very useful.

Geoff

Geoff, looking at your query, are you trying to trace what became of some of their siblings? Or their children? Either way you need to give names, dates and locations for them.
Jan

Brummiejan,
Thanks for the tip, I'll give more details of the more elusive ones.
Geoff

Ones I have not been able to track are:

Thomas (Henry?) Maddox, born c1877, died c 1960, believed to be married with a son, also called Thomas?

Emily A Maddox, born 1874, married Christopher Hart date unknown. Not known if any children, still alive in Birmingham (Erdington/Handsworth area) in mid-late 1940s.

William Maddox, born Aston 1882? no further details known.

Ellen Hopkins (1864-1924), married Walter Bailey, lived Stratford-on-Avon, am trying to find fourth child, believed called Norman (2 daughters, Marjorie & Gertrude and son Alwyne (died at birth/soon after).

possibly -

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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ARGYLE Lucy Ellen Aston 6d 625
MADDOX William Aston 6d 625


1911 -

MADDOX, William Head Married M 29 1882 Gun Stocker Warwickshire Aston VIEW
MADDOX, Lucy Ellen Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18087 Reference:
RG14PN18087 RG78PN1097 RD384 SD3 ED27 SN88

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St George Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
282 Newtown Row Birmingham County:
Warwickshire




William's father is a Gun Stocker on the 1901 and 1911 census



MADDOX, Thomas Head Married M 60 1851 Gun-Stocker Aston Warwickshire VIEW
MADDOX, Emily H Wife Married
41 years F 60 1851 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
HARRIS, William G Boarder Single M 29 1882 Insurance Agent Glamorganshire Heath VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17248 Reference:
RG14PN17248 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED43 SN313

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
43 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
25 Oscott Road Handsworth County:
Staffordshire


1901 -


MADDOX, Thomas Head Married M 50 1851 Gun Stocker Gun Works
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
MADDOX, Emma Wife Married F 50 1851
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
MADDOX, Thomas Son Single M 24 1877 Filer Cycle Works
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW
MADDOX, William Son Single M 19 1882 Fuze Assembler Ammunition Works
Birm
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2886 Folio:
154 Page:
2

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Aston by Birmingham St Peter & St Paul

Civil Parish:
Aston Manor Municipal Borough:
Address:
188, Witton Lane, Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire

a possible -

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
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FORD Matilda Aston 6d 547
Maddox Thomas Aston 6d 547


1911 -

MADDOX, Thomas Head Married M 34 1877 Tool Maker Nechells Bham VIEW
MADDOX, Matilda Wife Married
5 years F 28 1883 Nechells Bham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18338 Reference:
RG14PN18338 RG78PN1103 RD385 SD5 ED19 SN189

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Erdinton Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Erdington

Address:
32 Cheshire Road Witton County:
Warwickshire



there is also this marriage -


Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%)
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JOHNS Sarah Beatrice Aston 6d 634
Maddox Thomas Henry Aston 6d 634



which doesn't look right because of occupation and year of birth of Thomas -

1911 -


MADDOX, Thomas Harry Head Married M 38 1873 Agent Insurance Co Salop Ludland VIEW
MADDOX, Sarah Beatrice Wife Married
5 years F 36 1875 Pembroke Narberth VIEW
MADDOX, Geoffrey Johns Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Warwick Birmingham VIEW
FINDLAY, Arthur Boarder Single M 24 1887 Manager Boot Shop Cheshire Crewe VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18016 Reference:
RG14PN18016 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED28 SN85

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
Ladywood Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
53 Sherstone Road Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Maddox Thomas H Ford Aston 6d 808



Think certificate ordering is necessary !

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Hart Christopher Charles Aston 6d 409
Maddox Emily Arlow Aston 6d 409

1901 -

HART, Christopher C Head Married M 29 1872 Clerk Brass & Copper Manufr
Witton
Warwickshire VIEW
HART, Emily A Wife Married F 27 1874
Nechells B'ham
Warwickshire VIEW
MADDOX, Ada Sister-In-Law Single F 21 1880 Knitter
Nechells B'ham
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2712 Folio:
136 Page:
52

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
33 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Handsworth Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Doris Road, Handsworth County:
Staffordshire



1911 -

HART, Christopher Charles Head Married M 39 1872 Metal Manufacturers Clerk Warwick Witton VIEW
HART, Emily Arlow Wife Married
12 years F 37 1874 Warwick Nechells VIEW
HART, Ellen Mother Widow F 69 1842 Warwick Long Compton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17244 Reference:
RG14PN17244 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED39 SN144

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
27 Robert Road Handsworth Staffordshire County:
Staffordshire

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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Bailey Walter Stratford 6d 1039
Hopkins Ellen Stratford 6d 1039



1891 -

BAILEY, Walter Head Married M 32 1859 Carpenter & Joiner
Stratford
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Ellen Wife Married F 28 1863
Stratford
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Gertrude E Daughter F 2 1889
Stratford
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2477 Folio:
92 Page:
7

Registration District:
Stratford on Avon Sub District:
Stratford on Avon Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Old Stratford Municipal Borough:
Stratford on Avon Address:
57, Shakespeare Street, Old Stratford, Stratford On Avon County:
Warwickshire



1901 -

BAILEY, Walter Head Married M 41 1860 Carpenter & Joiner
Stratford on Avon
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Ellen Wife Married F 38 1863
Tysoe
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Gertrude Daughter Single F 12 1889
Stratford on Avon
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Marjorie Daughter Single F 1 1900
Stratford on Avon
Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Norman Son Single M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Stratford on Avon
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2938 Folio:
48 Page:
21

Registration District:
Stratford on Avon Sub District:
Stratford on Avon Enumeration District:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
Stratford on Avon Municipal Borough:
Address:
41, Rother Street, Stratford On Avon County:
Warwickshire



1911 -

BAILEY, Walter Head Married M 51 1860 Antique Furniture Dealer And Builder Stratford on Avon Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 48 1863 Tysoe Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Gertrude N Daughter Single F 22 1889 Mother's Help At Home Stratford on Avon VIEW
BAILEY, Marjorie E Daughter F 11 1900 School Stratford on Avon VIEW
BAILEY, N Victor Son M 10 1901 School Stratford on Avon VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18785 Reference:
RG14PN18785 RG78PN1122 RD394 SD2 ED4 SN207

Registration District:
Stratford on Avon Sub District:
Stratford on Avon Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Old Stratford Within

Address:
41 Rother St Stratford - on - Avon County:
Warwickshire


4 children born, 3 living

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Bailey Norman Victor Stratford upon Avon 6d 687

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Bailey Alwyne Walter Stratford 6d 714



Deaths Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Bailey Alwyne Walter 0 Stratford 6d 359

Thanks Choccy for all that info, you're right I should ask for some certs to verify who's who.

Geoff

HI Geoff
Its Jane, Norman Bailey died in 3/3/1926 is burried with all the Baileys in Stratford Cemetry have seen the grave thought very sad as no grand children for Ellen Hope all is well
Kind regardsJane