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Where do I go from here please?

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Linda

Linda Report 3 Aug 2010 19:15

My relative Aurelio Gonsalves c1896 married Lily Elizabeth Arnold 1896 I have found them in the Travel section of Ancestry. They travelled from 1924 to 1931 by which time they had four children and Lily returned to England alone with the children. Lily was born in Bethnal Green, London but I have no idea about Aurelio and don't know how to find out.
I have searched the Ships they sailed on and Aurelio was a Cox secretary on one ship and a Merchant on another but that's as much as I know.
Can anyone direct me as to where to go from here. Please use very basic instructions as I'm quite new to this.
Thank you.

safc

safc Report 3 Aug 2010 19:42

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Arnold Lily E Gonsalves W.Ham 4a 878
Gonsalves Aurelio G Arnold W.Ham 4a 878

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 3 Aug 2010 19:43

What are you trying to find, do you want to go backwards or come forwards - or both? Do you know the names of their parents - where did Aurelio and Lily sail to please?
Kind regards, Liz

K

K Report 3 Aug 2010 19:46

Do you have their marraige certificate which would name his father?

K

K Report 3 Aug 2010 19:52

Presumably the return

Name: Aurelio Gonsalves
Birth Date: abt 1891
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Trinidad
Arrival Date: 11 May 1931
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ports of Voyage: Port -Au-Prince
Ship Name: Stuyvesant
Search Ship Database: View the 'Stuyvesant' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Royal Netherlands Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 1174

Linda

Linda Report 3 Aug 2010 20:07

I want to go both back and forward. Lily's parents were John James Arnold 1855 and Elizabeth Harvey c1856. Aurelio and Lily sailed on the Pellerin De Latouche sailing from Colon to Plymouth, they embarked at Port of Spain in 1924. They sailed on the same ship embarking Trinidad in 1925. Then they sailed on the Stuyvesant from Trinidad to Plymouth embarking at Demerara in 1931. Finally, Lily sailed without Aurelio on the Stuyvesant sailing New York to Amsterdam embarking Demerara in 1933.

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 3 Aug 2010 22:39

Could this be the family in l90l - Liz


1901 census - household transcription
Person: ARNOLD, Lily
Address: 29, Tottenham Road, Hackney




ARNOLD, John Head Married M 33 1868 Tinman
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
ARNOLD, Eliza Wife Married F 29 1872
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
ARNOLD, John Son M 9 1892
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
ARNOLD, Harry Son M 6 1895
Bethnal Green
London VIEW
ARNOLD, Lily Daughter F 4 1897
Bethnal Green
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
228 Folio:
131 Page:
42

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
South-West Hackney Enumeration District:
32 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peters de Beauvoir Town

Civil Parish:
Hackney Municipal Borough:
Address:
29, Tottenham Road, Hackney County:
London

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 3 Aug 2010 22:41

This looks like the family in l9ll - Liz

1911 census - household transcription
Person: ARNOLD, Lily
Address: 2 Coopersale Road Hackney NE

ARNOLD, John James Head Married M 42 1869 Tin Plate Worker London Bethnal Green VIEW
ARNOLD, John James Son Single M 19 1892 Briar Pipe Maker London Bethnal Green VIEW
ARNOLD, Elizabeth Wife Married
21 years F 40 1871 London Bethnal Green VIEW
ARNOLD, Harry Son Single M 16 1895 Potters Card Maker London Bethnal Green VIEW
ARNOLD, Lily Daughter Single F 14 1897 Upholstery Trainer London Bethnal Green VIEW



RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1095 Reference:
RG14PN1095 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED22 SN2

Registration District:
Hackney Sub District:
Central Hackney Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
St John At Hackney

Address:
2 Coopersale Road

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 3 Aug 2010 22:47

Have you tried a search on this site, there are members with the surname Gonsalves in their trees.
Regards, Liz

Linda

Linda Report 4 Aug 2010 22:31

Thank you Liz for all your help. I have searched trees on this site but none have Aurelio. How do you get access to 1911 Census, I have found a pay per view or a use within 7 days but wondered if there is anything else?

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 4 Aug 2010 22:37

I subscribe yearly to a website which has the l9ll census, but you can view it by buying credits - if you enter "1911 census" the site should appear.
If you go to search trees, third from left, and enter the surname Gonsalves, (no christian name) and some dates, you may find a connection somewhere.
Kind regards, Liz

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 5 Aug 2010 07:05

He's listed as Portuguese and born Lisbon here:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Aurelio George Gonsalves
Name: Aurelio George Gonsalves
Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1916
Birth Year: abt 1890
Birth Location: Portugal
Birth Location Other: liston
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: Portuguese
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: St Louis

Can't make out the address where he's staying:

Mr Knocker
165 ???church St
London
SW

Rose

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 5 Aug 2010 07:16

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Aurelio George Gonsalves
Name: Aurelio George Gonsalves
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Birth Place: Lisbon, Portugal
Age: 30
Date of Arrival: Jun 1921
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Demerara, British Guyana
Ship Name: Caraquet

Off to see ???? Goncalves 165 Fenchurch St.

Father is C Gonsalves of Georgetown Demerara.

Rose