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Hi all I am trying to trace a marriage between Jane Wyndham and Henry Monghan in Q4 1880, Gateshead; I can find the Jane Free BMD - but not the corresponding image for Henry. Any ideas?
PS trying not to order a certificate if possible.
Cheers Jo

Hi I could only find this on ancestry.

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John Bell 1880 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
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Sarah Jane Clowes 1880 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
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Caleb Drake 1880 Durham (1837-1938) Durham
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Catherine Robson 1880 Easington Durham
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Jane Wyndham 1880 Durham (1837-1938) Durham

I have also looked on free bmd and couldn't find anything only the records that I put below. Have you tried searched just be bmd indexes for monghan and also are you sure that is the correct spelling as there maybe other variations. Try phoenetics and soundex searches.

Nicola

have you looked on the 1881 census to see how the name is spelt

Doesnt look like that Jane married Henry . there 3 ladies and two men BUT the one for Catherine Robson is for Easington so is the odd one out . i would say Catherine's ref is mistranscribed so Jane married either John Bell or Caleb Drake on that GRO record

are you sure he isnt MONAGHAN ??
1891 census

Name: Henry Monaghan
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:25 Burdon St

Occupation:Painter

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Monaghan 34
Jane Monaghan 28 b gateshead
Thomas Monaghan 7 b gateshead
John Monaghan 4 b gateshead
Eleanor Monaghan 2 b gateshead



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4182; Folio 20; Page 33; GSU

Name: Henry Monaghan
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Gateshead
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 971

Jane Monaghan ??????

1901 census
about Henry Monaghan
Name: Henry Monaghan
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:12 Charles St

Occupation:Painter-machinery

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 277
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Monaghan 45
Jane Monaghan 38
Thomas Monaghan 17
John J Monaghan 14
Elenor J Monaghan 12
Margaret Monaghan 10
Sarah Monaghan 8
Jane Monaghan 6
William Monaghan 3


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4755; Folio: 81; Page: 45.

1911 census
MONAGHAN, Henry Head Married
30 years M 55 1856 Engine Painter Northumberland Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Jane Wife Married F 48 1863 Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Thomas Son Single M 27 1884 Brassfinisher Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Margaret Daughter Single F 19 1892 Tobacco Stripper Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1894 Tobacco Pointer Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 Tobacco Pointer Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, William Son M 12 1899 School Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Henry Son M 6 1905 School Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30456 Reference:
RG14PN30456 RG78PN1748B RD557 SD2 ED46 SN234

Registration District:
Gateshead Sub District:
Gateshead Enumeration District:
46 Parish:
Gateshead

Address:
14 Chas 14 Charles St Gateshead County:
Durham

married 30 years 10 children 8 living

so married 30 years ties with 1881 marriage ref given

just for info that marriage you found for Jane Wyndham she married Caleb Drake
1881 census
Name: Jane Drake
[Jane Wyndham]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's name: Caleb
Father's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Tritlington, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Stockley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: Page Bank
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Wyndham 44
Jane Drake 18
Caleb Drake 26



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4957; Folio: 5; Page: 3; GSU roll: 1342191

any use Joanne???

Theres no Henry Monghan, Monaghan or similar marrying in Dec 1880 on FMP.

I1911 census
MONAGHAN, Henry Head Married
30 years M 55 1856 Engine Painter Northumberland Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Jane Wife Married F 48 1863 Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Thomas Son Single M 27 1884 Brassfinisher Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Margaret Daughter Single F 19 1892 Tobacco Stripper Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1894 Tobacco Pointer Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 Tobacco Pointer Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, William Son M 12 1899 School Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
MONAGHAN, Henry Son M 6 1905 School Durham Gateshead on Tyne VIEW
(this is my family)

I'm confused... Does this mean they didnt marry ?

Cheers
Jo

Joanne
thats the one I posted above and its states married 30 years which ties with the 1881 marriage i posted.however on that one Jane is down a Monaghan too ,,this could well be a mistake by the registrar which they wouldn't have picked up if they couldn't read or write. i have several marriage certs where some info is wrong due to mishearing etc.
It does seem strange both are listed as Monaghan on the cert. Unfortunately Now the checking points are no longer available to cant ask for a check on her dads name

mwah!!!!

This makes sense; Jane Wyndham (father not identified on birth certificate) was the daughter of Eleanor Wyndham who then married Matthew Monaghan; Henry Monaghan was Matthews nephew who then married Jane who must have taken the Monaghan name from Matthew/Eleanor.

Thanks again.
Jo

Ah all drops into place then she was calling herself Monaghan too

this is off gateshead registery office

1. Henry MONAGHAN
Spouse: Jane MONAGHAN
Date: Q1 1881
Register: R038/64