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Ada Emily Woods married John Quick Tregembo Sep 1884 in Helston Cornwall.
She was born Sep 1864.in Kingston, Surrey. (family info says she was born in Surrey.)
Am I barking up the right tree when I found Ada woods on the 1871 census in Kingston with parents
William and Mary and
sister Elizabeth and brother Arthur?
She called her first child Elizabeth
Is this likely to be the right family or shold I get Ada's marriage/birth cert?
I wonder how she ended up in Cornwall?
thanks for any advice on how to proceed
Jill

Getting her birth certificate would confirm parents' names -

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ada Emily Woods
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kingston
County: Middlesex, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 231

this is a possible -

Name: Ada Emily Woods
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Aug 1864
Baptism/Christening Place: THAMES DITTON,SURREY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William John Woods
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eliza
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04059-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 808496
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

possibly -

Deaths Jun 1865 (>99%)
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Woods Eliza Kingston 2a 146


this looks like William re-married -

WOODS, William Head M 39 1832 Surrey VIEW
WOODS, Mary Wife F 35 1836 Kent VIEW
GREEN, Alice Daughter-In-Law F 8 1863 Middlesex VIEW
WOODS, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1864 Surrey VIEW
*******WOODS, Ada Daughter F 6 1865 Surrey VIEW
WOODS, Arthur Son M 1 1870 Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
863 Folio:
103 Page:
13

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Esher Enumeration District:
6 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Thames Ditton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Weston Green, Thames Ditton County:
Surrey


Note Alice Green is daughter-in-law, which usually means step-daughter

Alice Green's baptism - no father named - address given as 'Thames Ditton'


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Alice Green
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 2 Oct 1867
Mother's Name: Mary Burr Green
Parish: St Matthias, Poplar
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex


Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Matthias, Poplar, Register of baptisms, P88/MTS, Item 018



This looks like the marriage -

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
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******Green Mary Burr Kingston 2a 398
******Wood William Thomas Kingston 2a 398



Ada Emily Woods' father was named as William John Woods, rather than William Thomas - but looking likely

THanks a heap but please, please pleas choccy, where did you get that info for future reference?
Jill

1861 England Census
Name: Mary Burr Green
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Westerham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Estcumb 29
Amelia Estcumb 26
Susan Musk 28
Mary Burr Green 24
Elizabeth Arneson 11

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 456; Folio: 93; Page: 9; GSU roll: 542641.

so what should I do next please?
Jill

I found the possible birth on the IGI site -


http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html


The other information I found on Ancestry and on the FreeBMD site -


http://www.freebmd.org.uk


To find Ada Emily's parents for certain, you will need to get her birth certificate.

The information I have posted is only 'possibles'.

from Cornwall opc

Parish or Registration District: Porthleven
Date: 09-Sep 1884
GROOM: John Quick TREGEMBO
Groom's age: Full
Groom's condition: Bachelor
Groom's rank/profession: Fisherman
Groom's residence: Porthleven
Father: John Cowles Tregembo
Father's rank/profession: Fisherman
BRIDE: Ada Emily WOODS
Bride's age: Full
Bride's condition: Spinster
Bride's rank/profession: -
Bride's residence: Porthleven
Father: William Thomas Woods
Father's rank/profession: -
Banns(B) or Licence(L): Banns
Groom Signed(S) or Marked(M): Sign
Bride Signed(S) or Marked(M): Sign
Witness 1: Richard Quick
Witness 2: Margaret Jane Tregembo
Register notes:
Transcriber Notes:
Transcriber: Damien Willey

unless Ada lied about her age (not unknown!) she was over 21 in 1884 so should have been born before 1864

John in 1881 - occupations fit

John TREGEMBO Head M Male 47 Sithney, Cornwall, England Fisherman
Elizabeth TREGEMBO Wife M Female 44 Sithney, Cornwall, England
John TREGEMBO Son U Male 25 Sithney, Cornwall, England Fisherman
Margeret A. TREGEMBO Daur U Female 14 Sithney, Cornwall, England Garden Net Mender
Henry TREGEMBO Son Male 9 Sithney, Cornwall, England Scholar
William J. TREGEMBO Son Male 6 Sithney, Cornwall, England Scholar
Clara TREGEMBO Daur Female 3 Sithney, Cornwall, England
James T. TREGEMBO Son Male 2 m Sithney, Cornwall, England

Source Information:
Census Place Sithney, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film 1341557
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2322 / 64
Page Number 27

Thanks so much Choccy - I watch and learn! I appreciate the instruction as much as the info so that I can do it for myself next time.
thanks for that Ann - what is Cornwall opc????

opc - online parish clerk sites. There are about 8 of these and they are transcriptions of baptisms/marriages & death church records. they are by no means complete but can provide info which saves spending money on a certificate. As in the marriage details I have given you - all the details you would find on the certificate - except the actual church name

to find which counties are covered just google 'online parish clerks'.

incidentally, as the 1891 census says Ada born in Surrey c1864 she was probably born 1863 which makes her 21 on marriage. As it was not compulsory for parents to register a child's birth - it was the registrar's job to track them down until 1874(?) - her birth may not have been registered

I never knew that so thanks a lot, Ann.
I have found what I believe to be Ada's birth in Sep qtr 1864 registered in Kingston, surrey. I wish I knew how she got to Cornwall!
Her husband, John was a fisherman and they did sail far away from home I know and his father was on bigger ships.
There were also quite a lot of Tregembo family around the London area so perhaps that was an element in the Cornwall connection.
Perhaps we shall never know. An elderly relation is in a home now with her faculties going, but she still has some early memory which I may be able to tap and then check.
Thanks again
Jill