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No worries, Joyce. There are plenty of Mannells/Mannels/Manuels in the area. It would be easy to get them confused.

Don't hesitate to ask again when you're ready.

Ozi

ozibird please dont look for anymore as im thinking i am tracing the wrong mannells ill wait to my eyes are clearer

i am so sorry

Joyce

Ozibird

You have been so busy i am confused now
i will give you the parents and the male children for this family as i want to trace descendants
ive just thought i have been so silly as the children of the other males could have had sons i am so sorry i must be going senile

John Mannell b 1730 portesham dorset m eliz watkins 1764 st peters portesham they had nine children

Thomas 1764 m jane thorner punknowle dorset

edward 1766 m eliz hellett

james 1775 m hannah miller

joseph b 1768 waddon not married


edward b 1766 whos married eliz hellett 23/7/1797 shipton burton bradstock

looks like they had a
sarah b 1804 shipton burton bradstock
thomas 1/5/1805 shipton gorge
mary 1808 shipton burton bradstock



Joyce from portsmouth uk

1841 England Census
Name: John Mannell
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
Hundred: Godderthorne
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Street

Occupation: Ag lab

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Mannell 25
Ann Mannell 25
Mary Ann Mannell 1



1851 England Census
Name: John Mannell
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Mannell
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Peashill Napp

Occupation: Labourer/Inn Keeper

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Mannell 40
Ann Mannell 25 - Beer Shop Inn _____??
Mary Ann Mannell 11
James Crabb 30 - servant, farm labourer
All born Shipton Gorge



1861 England Census
Name: John Mannell
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Mannell
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Peashill New Inn

Occupation: Inn Keeper

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Mannell 49
Ann Mannell 35
Mary Ann Mannell 21
All born Skipton Gorge



Marriages Jun 1867
GALE William Stone Bridport 5a 745
MANNEL Mary Ann Bridport 5a 745



1871 England Census
Name: John Manuel
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Manuel
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton George, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton George
Ecclesiastical parish: Sarum
Town: Shipton George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: New Inn

Occupation: Inn Keeper

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Manuel 60
Ann Manuel 45
Harriet Gill 4 - niece; scholar



Deaths Dec 1876
MANNEL Ann 50 Bridport 5a 235


1881 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Gale
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Gale
Gender: Female
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: New Inn

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
William Gale 41 - Carpenter; Shipton Gorge, Dorset
Mary Ann Gale 41
Frances Elizabeth Gale 6
Mary Ann Gale 5
John William Gale 4
Thomas Gale 2

1891 England Census
Name: John Mannell
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton George
Civil parish: Shipton George
Ecclesiastical parish: Shipton George
Town: Shipton George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Peas Hill New Inn

Occupation: Publican

Condition as to marriage: widower

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Mannell 81
William Gale 50 - carpenter
Mary Ann Gale 50
Mary Gale 16
John Gale 15 - Mason's Assistant
Thomas Gale 9 - scholar


???
Deaths Mar 1899
Mannel John 87 Bridport 5a 247

You've probably got this one.
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Mannel
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
Hundred: Godderthorne
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Street

Occupation: Ag lab

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Mannell 80 - Pauper
Elizabeth Mannel 65
Thomas Mannel 30


1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Mannell [Thomas Mannel]
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: In Street

Occupation: Farmers labourer

Condition as to marriage: Batchelor

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Mannell 44


And there's this bloke.
1851: Thomas Mannel abt 1804 Bridford, Dorset, England Visitor Poole St James, Dorset - mariner; married; Thomas Alley



1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Mannell [Thomas Mannel]
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton Gorge
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: Private House

Occupation: Carter

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Mannell 54


1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Manuel [Thomas Mannel]
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton George, Dorset, England [Shipton Gorge]
Civil parish: Shipton George
Ecclesiastical parish: Sarum
Town: Shipton George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: None recorded

Occupation: Ag lab

Condition as to marriage: Batchelor

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Manuel 65




1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Manuel [Thomas Mannel]
Age: 76
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipton Gorge, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Shipton George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: New Inn

Occupation: Farm Labourer

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Registration district: Bridport
Sub-registration district: Burton Bradstock
Household Members: Name Age
John Manuel 71- Head; widow; Shipton Gorge
Thomas Manuel 76


Deaths Dec 1888
Manuel Thomas 84 Bridport 5a 233

sorry ozibird my eyes are playing up i never saw thomas you added
i have conjunctivitis also a macular hole in the other eye everything has gone wrong the last two months cant wait to get back to normal
i dont sopose you know who thomas married and had any children do you i know im asking a lot as its very kind of you to look for me

Joyce

Which couple must have had a son?

Ozi

Ozibird

Thanks a lot for that info it seems very likely doesnt it but they must have had a son to keep the surname going

Joyce

There's also this.

Name: Thomas Mannel
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 01 May 1805
Christening Place: Bridport, Dorset

Father's Name: Edward Mannel
Mother's Name: Betty Mannel
Record Set: RG4_0457
Collection: England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)

????
Name: Mary Mannell
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Mar 1808
Baptism/Christening Place: NEW MEETING BARRACK STREET-INDEPENDENT,BRIDPORT,DORSET,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1808
Father's Name: Edward Mannell
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07412-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 590698
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Is this a possibility?

Groom's Name: Edward Manwell
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Hellett
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1797
Marriage Place: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15826-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1279488
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Thank you margaret yes i have his birth not marriage never mind i have been searching now to see if other members are searching the same family

many thanks

Joyce

There's this daughter of Edward & Elizabeth in Shipton:

MANNEL, Sarah Christening
Gender: Female
Birthplace: Shipton
Christening Date: 22 Jan 1804 Recorded in: Burton Bradstock, Dorset, England
Father: Edward MANNEL
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1279488 Dates: 1790 - 1823

Can't find the marriage but his birth is on BVRI, you probably have it.

MANNELL, Edward Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Apr 1766 Recorded in: Portisham, Dorset, England
Father: John MANNELL
Mother: Elizabeth
Source: FHL Film 1239223 Dates: 1731 - 1819

Edward Mannell b 1766 Portesham died 1830 married Eliz ??
had one son Thomas 1811 Sh ipton Gorge

when were they married did they have anymore children

many thanks

Joyce