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searching marriage listings

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Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 19:43

Hi,

What would be the easiest way to locate a marriage when you know:
Husbands name and rough year of birth
Wife name & Rough year of birth
Rough location from Census records
The fact they were in England in 1861, back by 1871 having moved to Isle of Wight in between and not go married there?

Thanks
Rachael

Janice

Janice Report 26 Sep 2010 20:07

Put the details on here and let the super-sleuths find it for you ;-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Sep 2010 20:55

If you know both husband's and wife's names just enter them on FreeBMD no date or place. Or am I not understanding your question?

Janice

Janice Report 26 Sep 2010 21:07

I was assuming you'd already done that and drawn a blank.

Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 21:12

I have found the marriage register on here and can only find a way to put 1 of the surnames in and search through pages and pages of results.

If you would like to assist the names are Thomas Glenny born C.1845 & Elizabeth Foreman born C.1842.

please can someone explain how/where you can put both names in .
Thanks
Rachaek

Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 21:17

Somerset Girl - Thanks - OK
FOREMAN Elizabeth Wandsworth 1d 918
Glenny Thomas Armstrong Wandsworth 1d 918
From this how do I get a copy of the certificate

Please can you tell me how you got there so fast?!?

Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 21:19

Also 1918 seems a bit late since they started having Children at 1875. Are there any earlier?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Sep 2010 21:22

There is this one:-

Name: Thomas Armstrong Glenny
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 918

Also on the page is Elizabeth Foreman

I think you are mixing up the reference numbers with the date. The marriage is in 1872.

You use the reference numbers given to order from the GRO. You can do this online here:-

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Kath. x

Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 21:26

SomersetGirl - thanks for the help, sorry I missed seeing the URL before hence my confusion.

Kath - many thanks, what do I now to get a copy? Presumably the references Volume: 1d
Page: 918
are important.

Cheers for all your help folks

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 26 Sep 2010 21:27

Rachael
The marriage was in the September quarter of 1872 ( July / Aug, / Sept )

The 1d is a volume number and the 918 is the page number.

To order a certificate from the GRO you need those numbers and letters to identify the correct marriage.

This is the site most people use.....
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Gwyn

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Sep 2010 21:28

I've given the website for ordering certificates at the end of my previous post.

Kath. x

Rachael

Rachael Report 26 Sep 2010 21:37

Sorry everyone, I appear to be very slow tonight as I can't see where to put the reference on order form.

I will look again tomorrow night and come back if I need more help if people don't mind.

Sorry for being slow
AND
Thanks for all your help!

Janice

Janice Report 26 Sep 2010 21:52

Rachael,

They don't ask for the reference on the first page: it comes later.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 26 Sep 2010 21:54

No, Rachael, you are not slow, you have simply not done it before. Go to that website that Gwyn gave you. You will need to register with your email address and a password. You will then get to a screen with a list of things to ask for. Choose Marriage Certificate England and Wales (item 2), go down to "Is GRO Reference Known" and check that as Yes. Enter the year - 1872. Click Submit.

The next screen asks for your personal details, address etc. Fill those in and Submit. The next page wants the names of the couple (type them exactly as they appear on the record you have been given, no spelling mistakes or alterations, even if you think the names are wrongly spelt, e.g if the record says Mary, put Mary, even if you know she is really May). Enter the Quarter (July/Aug/Sept), the district (Wandsworth), the Volume (1d) and the Page (918). You will presumably want Standard Service, and probably won't want to give a reference for yourself.

The next screen will ask how you want to pay - credit card details. The service is supposedly secure and I've never had a problem with it, so enter the details of your credit card and away you go!

Despite this method being quick and easy, however, I personally would NOT order the certificate from the GRO, as marriage certificates are not copies of the originals. I would contact the local Register Office and give them all the details (they will not be interested in the GRO reference, it means nothing to them), but give all the info re the names, the year, etc. and you will get a copy of the original marriage certificate which may have their genuine signatures on it (if they were able to sign their names). Unfortunately some of these marriage certificates are the "long version", i.e. longer than A4, so difficult to file, but at least they are authentic.

Good luck

Come back if you still struggle. Everything is easy when you know how, as my old dad used to say.

Margaret

Rachael

Rachael Report 29 Sep 2010 20:03

Thanks everyone, I understand better now.