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last column of the census

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Michele

Michele Report 29 Sep 2010 18:21

hello, can anyone help with a word in the last column of the 1881 census? We´ve got a Winifred Hill who was an inmate in the Stockport Workhouse, she was married, a cotton spinner and blind and either pregnant or had just given birth. In the very last column there´s a word that looks like "Bonkers". Am sure they didn´t have this word in 1881! can anyone help? thanks, Michele

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Sep 2010 18:40

I know it's dreadful but I have to say it made me laugh - it looks just like bonkers! Surely not?
Jan

Michele

Michele Report 29 Sep 2010 18:44

I´m glad someone can read it as that! :)

Janet

Janet Report 29 Sep 2010 18:47

I looked through the other pages and all the other entries say imbecile (which is bad enough!) but bonkers ha ha that takes the biscuit

can't read it as anything else though ,googling doesn't give it as anything other that a fairly recent word.

Michele

Michele Report 29 Sep 2010 18:52

thanks for your quick replies, have googled bonkers, bowkers and borkers- yes it might be an illness, although she didn´t die in there but eventually got out and had 4 more children. can read everything on that page apart from that word!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Sep 2010 18:53

I agree, googling seems to imply the first usage was beginning of 19th century. I would get in touch with OED, who knows, you might have stumbled onto something!
jan

Janet

Janet Report 29 Sep 2010 19:06

the oed are looking for uses before 1945

Were people bonkers before 1957? Or were they just nuts, loopy, or crackers? The OED has evidence from 1948 of the word being used in Navy slang to mean drunk or light-headed, so there seems to be a connection. But did the word change tack before 1957?

try it they might be grateful?

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 29 Sep 2010 19:10

if she had recently given birth perhaps she had postnatal depression or psychosis. If so she would have been acting very strangely

Michele

Michele Report 29 Sep 2010 19:32

thanks for all your replies, I couldn´t help but have a bit of a laugh when I first saw it, will email the OED tomorrow

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 29 Sep 2010 20:03

Let us know what they say - if nothing else they might come up with an alternative (hope not though!).
jan

Pam

Pam Report 29 Sep 2010 20:28

The writing is different to the rest of the page, half written half capitals. Perhaps it was added mischeviously some considerable time later.

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Sep 2010 23:11

I don't know if it might be relevant? but in 1891 she has a daughter aged 10, which might put her in the workhouse for the birth? I wonder if the 'bonkers' is actually something like 'born=RS'? the 'E' being the = plus upstroke of previous letter?

Cheshiremaid

Cheshiremaid Report 29 Sep 2010 23:16


Stockport Workhouse also served as an infirmary for the area.

Linda

Kense

Kense Report 30 Sep 2010 08:02

I agree with Rambling Rose, possibly the RS stands for Restricted Sight, i.e. she was born with restricted sight.

The capitals for RS rule it out for being "bonkers" so I shouldn't bother the OED.

Eddieisagrandad

Eddieisagrandad Report 30 Sep 2010 17:32

If she'd just given birth then presumably she would have been one half of a pair of bonkers nine months previously ; )

Michele

Michele Report 30 Sep 2010 17:53

the OED did write back, probably thought I was bonkers for asking a daft question! but the first use of the word was in 1945, so I think those of you who have written about RS at the end of the word being Restricted Sight are right, perhaps the beginning of the word says Born, or Blind In one eye, thanks for all your replies and have a nice weekend.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 30 Sep 2010 18:23

Hi,

had to have a look myself. Are the first 4 letters actually BORN and then as previously suggested RS (restricted sight)???

Dee x

Michele

Michele Report 30 Sep 2010 19:18

Hi Dee, don´t know for sure, can stll see bonkers when I read it! think a trip to the library is necessary...