Genealogy Chat

The older Harvey mentioned was the brother of Harold Harvey - shown in 1891 with Harold.

I mentioned him in 1911 because it is possible he cold be the father of Harvey born 1910 (in 1911 the baby is listed as a nephew rather than grandson) but the older Harvey was unmarried in 1911 so this seems unlikely.

there must be at least 2 Harvey Horrock(s)

that 1891 / 1901 census above can't be the right one as Stephen says Harvey was born 1910

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
HORROCKS Harvey Ormskirk 8b 904


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sorry Rose just realised you meant Harold (father) and Harvey (uncle of Harvey 1910)

And:

Births Sep 1916
Horrocks Millicent Blenkhorn Ormskirk 8b 1562

Rose

Harrold's brother Harvey is listed as single in 1911, I wonder if the reference to nephew was an error by his grandfather.

If he is the right person he could well have had a number of siblings

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Horrocks May Blinkhorn Ormskirk 8b 1737

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Horrocks Arnold Blinkhorn Ormskirk 8b 1614

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Horrocks Bertha Blinkhorn Ormskirk 8b 1508
Horrocks Granville Blinkhorn Ormskirk 8b 1508

Harold's British Army WWI Pension Records are on Ancestry. Nellie is listed as his wife and he is a painter.

Rose

Marriages Dec 1884
Ashworth Lizzie Bury 8c 704
Horrocks Edward Bury 8c 704

Rose

Harold in 1901 with brother Harvey:

1901 England Census
about Harold Horrock
Name: Harold Horrock
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Ellen Ashworth
Gender: Male
Where born: Heywood, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Heywood
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Ashworth 51
Lizzie Horrocks 37
Mary A Ashworth 31
Harold Horrock 12
Harvey Horrock 11

Rose

Born 20th may Harvey died West Lancs Dec 1986 V40 P 2128.

I wonder why they have Nelly as daughter and harvey as nephew.
No children against Nelly or Harold on 1911 census!!
So was Harvey son of Harolds sister or brother?

Maryb

Possible Harold but you really need the marriage cert of Harvey and Ida

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HORROCKS, Harold
Address: 145 Shakespeare St Southport

CRISPIN, Clara Head Married
4 years F 30 1881 Housekeeper Birkdale Lancashire VIEW
CRISPIN, Thomas Edward Son M 3 1908 Southport Lancashire VIEW
CRISPIN, Arthur Son M 2 1909 Southport Lancashire VIEW
WILD, Martha Mother Widow F 66 1845 Assistant Housekeeper Northwich Cheshire VIEW
HURST, William Henry Boarder Single M 60 1851 Grocers Assistant Warrington Lancashire VIEW
HORROCKS, Harold Boarder Married M (2YRS) 22 1889 House Painter Hegwood Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22887 Reference:
RG14PN22887 RG78PN1340A RD457 SD6 ED21 SN233

Registration District:
Ormskirk Sub District:
North Meols Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Southport

Address:
145 Shakespeare St Southport County:
Lancashire

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
BLINKHORN Nellie Ormskirk 8b 1446

HORROCKS Harold Ormskirk 8b 1446

Possible that these are his parents.

Christine

If it this the correct birth cert you list for Harvey it would also name his parents

Just a thought in 1911 below - the image does look like possibly Harvey

1911 census - household transcription

BLINKHORN, Samuel Head Married M 62 1849 Cabinet Maker Southport VIEW
BLINKHORN, Beartha Wife Married
25 years F 47 1864 Polesworth Warkshire VIEW
HORROCKS, Nelly Daughter Married F 23 1888 Charwoman Southport VIEW
HORROCKS, Harry Nephew Married M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Birkdale VIEW
BLACKHORN, Edward Son M 15 1896 Iron Mongers Errand Boy Birkdale VIEW
BLINKHORN, James Son M 10 1901 Birkdale VIEW
BLINKHORN, Albert Son M 10 1901 Birkdale VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22891 Reference:
RG14PN22891 RG78PN1340A RD457 SD6 ED25 SN164

Registration District:
Ormskirk Sub District:
North Meols Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Southport

Address:
26 Birch Street Southport County:
Lancashire

I presume you do not have the marriage cert as that would give the name & occupation of his father, if known

born in 1910 MAY/JUNE,registered in Ormskirt district,married Ida Crook who was born in Burnley 1907 Father was James Crook.Does anyone have any information on him as he was my grandfather i cant trace his father or mother any help would be appreciated