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can anyone help. i am looking for my gtgtgrandfather's birth but stuck how to do it. the information i have got is
william james gilbert born circa 1844, on 1881 census states he was born in kingston upon thames, but not found. he never married my ggt grandmother maria rebecca elder born1859 sunningdale. he died in norwich 1895 aged 51, so slightly stuck how to find right one, because quuite a few born around 1843/1844. already taken 2 out cos they in same area all their lives. if anyone can help it must be really appreciated

1881 for info:

William Gilbert
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria Gilbert
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Costessey
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Brick Maker & Burner

Registration district: Forehoe
Sub-registration district: Costessey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Gilbert 35
Maria Gilbert 25
William Gilbert 4
Archibald Gilbert 2
Lemedy Gilbert

A tree on Ancestry says his parents were John Edward Gilbert & Ann Benney.

On the 1891 census she's calling herself Maria Gilbert. She and William have the 7 children with them.

thank you but i know the tree on ancestry n i think the information is wrong but not sure how to prove it. think he lied about whereabouts he was born, not too sure why, but his fatherin law was also a brickmaker but born in rotherhithe, so thank will keep looking.

Possibles?

Name: William James Gilbert
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1845
Baptism Date: 7 Jan 1845
Father's name: Robert Gilbert
Mother's name: Jane Gilbert
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mary at Hill
Borough: City of London
Born Nov 24th 1844. Address 5 Lon lane. Father a carman.


Name: William James Gilbert
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1846
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1846
Father's name: Marka John Gilbert
Mother's name: Mary Ann Gilbert
Parish or Poor Law Union: Turnham Green
Borough: Hounslow
Born Aug 13th or 19th 1846. Address Turnham Green. father a shoemaker. father is plain John, looks like in the entry above they produced a hybrid of these parents and another chiild which has been crosssed out, and then two separate entries follow.

thank you kucinta, i think top1 more plausible. thank you

thank you somerset,that may be we cant find him on earlier censuses except 1881n 1891. if the spelling and names were changed around. thank you will double check this one thoroughly

hi everyone again, just replying . i am still strugglind to find the birth of my gtgrandfather. i have checked all the possible leads that the wonderful people on here gave me but despite hours of checking they are not the right ones. i have 2 other possibilities.
1 william aged 7 who is at 39 lower street with his gran (im guessing) Catherine who was born in monmouthshire and a margaret who is 28 dressmaker.
also another william who accoding to the 1851 census was born in spain with a younger brother george who was born in ireland and their mother Clarissa Gilbert born in Kennington surrey. unfortunately despite checking other censuses this family disappear.

Help please anyone

sorry forgot to add the 2nd family were in southwark london

this gentleman my great grandfather is really proving elusive,desperate to find him but getting stuck now lol.tried virrtually every william born around that time but no joy. still best possibility is the one born in spain but not sure how to do that.

hi again, this man is definitely proving to be an elusive pimpernel. a question i would like to ask is does anywhere know where i could find apprenticeship records for brickmakers, as on the 1881 census William is a brickmaker. just wondering if he would have to serve an apprenticeship.

thank you if anyone can help.

Just posting the 1891 - the children's names might help find the family in 1901. All the children except Henry b Costessey; Henry b Suffolk, Southwold; Maria born Berks, Sunningdale:

1891 England Census
about William Gilbert
Name: William Gilbert
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Gilbert
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingston On Thames, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Costessy
Ecclesiastical parish: Costessy
Town: Costessy
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Forehoe
Sub-registration district: Costessey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
William Gilbert 47
Maria Gilbert 32
Henry Gilbert 12
Lemedy Gilbert 10
Selina Gilbert 8
Violet Gilbert 6
Albert Gilbert 5
Victor Gilbert 3
Helen Gilbert 1

1901 - Maria is shown as a widow:

1901 England Census
about Victor Gilbert
Name: Victor Gilbert
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Maria Gilbert
Gender: Male
Where born: Costessey, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Heigham
County/Island: Norfolk
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: West Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 271
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Gilbert 41
Lamedy Gilbert 20
Violet Gilbert 17
Albert Gilbert 15
Victor Gilbert 13
Nellie Gilbert 10
Frederick Gilbert 8
May Gilbert 6
Ada Gilbert 5
Maud Gilbert 2
Ivy Gilbert 10 Months
Robert Stannard 22

I see you say he died in 1895. If so, who was Ada, Maud and Ivy's father?

hi potty, that w ould be a good question. i would like to know myself, i think i have an idea that it could well be her 2nd husband but he was married at the time. will get birth certs but prob will say william.
looking to see if i can find some brickmakers apprenticeships.
thank you