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Well found Maureen.

Ancestry has the name as Butta.

Name: Ronald F Butta
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: James F Butta
Mother's name: Emma Butta
Gender: Male
Where born: Bayswoke, London, England
[Bayswater]

Christine

FMPs transcription:

1891 census transcription details for: 5, Alma Place, Devonport

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1744 Folio: 145 Page: 54


Reg. District: Stoke Damerel Sub District: Stoke
Parish: Devonport Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: Stoke Damerel City/Municipal Borough: Devonport
Address: 5, Alma Place, Devonport
County: Devonshire


BULLE, James F Head Married M 48 1843 Watchmaker
Ireland
BULLE, Emma Wife Married F 44 1847
London
BULLE, Edith M Daughter Single F 19 1872 Teacher Board School
Kentish TownLondon
BULLE, Charles W Son Single M 18 1873 Fancy Shop Assistant
Kentish TownLondon
BULLE, Ronald F Son M 14 1877 Scholar
BayswaterLondon
BULLE, Ethel E Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
BayswaterLondon

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??Butler James Finley of Westwood Port View Saltash Cornwall died 7 July 1931 Administration Exeter 14 September to Charles William Butler master tailor. Effects £159 15s.

Maureen

LOL!! You really have "the bug".

Sorry,the will info was from:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 on Ancestry.

Maureen

ive just found that marriage on the LDS site but it didnt show their fathers names, only that she was a jane johnson and i had no way of being sure it was the correct one. What you've now found is fabulous Maureen! where did you get the will info??
God its exciting! just ordered another marriage cert for Emmas and James wedding.
Thanks!

Name: Charles William Bosher Occ:Grocer
Age: Full Age
Drummond St??
Spouse Name: Jane Johnson George St
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 12 May 1844
Parish: St Pancras Parish Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: William Bosher Occ:Sawyer
Spouse Father Name: John Johnson Occ:Dec'd

Bosher Charles William 9 November. The will of Charles William Bosher late of 85 Westbourne Street Pimlico in the county of Middlesex,Grocer and Cheesemonger who died 15 October 1877 at 85 Westbourne street was proved at the Principal Registry by Jane Bosher of 85 Westbourne Street Widow the relict one of the executors.

Effects under £2,000.

Maureen

Thankyou Christine youve given me plenty to go on, enjoy your evening.

I have to go out now but haven't found them in 1891.

Christine

So this must be Emma in 1881.

Name: Emma Butler
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James F. Butler
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 61a Ledbury Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James F. Butler 38 born Ireland
Emma Butler 34
Edith M. Butler 9
Charles Wm. Butler 8
Ethel Emma Butler 1 month
Ann Maria Butler 62 mother born Dundee

Christine

This looks like them in 1851.

1851 England Census
about Chas Basher
Name: Chas Basher
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane Basher
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England


Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 9i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas Basher 37
Jane Basher 34
Jane Basher 5
Emma Basher 4
Charles Basher 1
Amelia Ovens 14 servant

Christine

i have no definate birthdate for emma, i can only say she married in 1870 and her siblings were all born 1846-55 according to the census details we have both found. i may need to get her marriage cert for a better birth date, or perhaps a middle name which would help, there are several Emma boshers born in that time. and i dont have her mothers(Janes) maiden name yet.
if only Emmas Husband James was on the census with his middle name Finlay- that would narrow it down!!
im going to have a peep at deaths too.
Thanks Christine

I can't see Ronald after 1881 or the Bosher family before 1871.

When was Emma born?

Christine

Christine_ thankyou very much

Emma Bosher married James Finlay Butler in Sep 1870, so perhaps she may be on the 1861 with her parents?

1871 England Census
about Jane Bosher
Name: Jane Bosher
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Bosher
Gender: Female
Where born: Feltham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Bosher 56
Jane Bosher 53
Jane Bosher 25
James Bosher 19
Henry Bosher 19
Mary A Bosher 16
Harriett Woodhouse 24 lodger
Charlotte Pitmon 29 visitor

Christine

Firstly, ive asked a lot today so i apologose in advnace- ive just recieved a marriage cert that has got the ball rolling again im not going to get ancestry or fmp till christmas!

below is an 1881 census from the LDS site.
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Jane BOSHER Mother (Head) W Female 63 Fetcham, Surrey, England
James BOSHER Son U Male 29 St Georges, Middlesex, England General Dealer
Jane BOSHER Daur U Female 34 (City), Middlesex, England Housekeeper (Servant)
Henry BOSHER Son U Male 28 St Georges, Middlesex, England Joiner
Ronald F. BUTLER Grandson Male 4 Paddington, Middlesex, England Scholar
Mary A. JARVIS Lodger W Female 54 St Georges, Middlesex, England Coachdining Maker


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Source Information:
Dwelling 85 Westbourne St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341022
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0100 / 86
Page Number 5

i am interested in finding Ronald F ( finlay) Butler on the 1891 census- hope fully with his parents James and Emma.
i would also like to find the Bosher family on the 1871 or even earlier census as its the only way to find the name of Janes husband and grandfather of Robert Finlay.

Thankyou for looking.