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We have a g grandfather who left Lancashire and went on 'The City of Berlin' arriving in Boston on 19th March 1883. After that we have absolutely no information about him. He was 32 at the time so it is possible he started another family. It is so easy with the UK births marriages and deaths. Is it possible to access the US records - these are not on Ancestry.
Grateful for any help

Marcia

when was he born please ?

He was born in Leigh Lancashire on 11th January 1851 - however, after this date he never gave his correct age - he always added on a couple of years so it appears on records as having been born 1846/47/48 etc. Not helpful I know. I think it was because his wife was a couple of years older

Marcia

This record says he arrived New York:

New York Port, Ship Images, 1851-1891
about Alfred Hewlet Jones
Name: Alfred Hewlet Jones
Arrival Date: 19 Mar 1883
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship route: Liverpool-Queenstown-NY
Port of Arrival: New York, United States
Ship Name: City of Berlin
Ship built: 1875
Shipping line: Inman Line
Ship tonnage: 5,491 tons; 488' x 44'
Ship description: 3 masts, 1 funnel

Thank you for the information Margaret. Yes - that is him arriving in the States headed for Boston. After that a total blank.
Marcia

There's 14 trees with him on Ancestry. Do you have an Ancestry sub? If not, I will contact the tree owners for you. What do you want to know? Who was his first wife? These trees have him married to Elizabeth Schumaker. Who was he married to before?

All these trees have him born 1851 and married age 18 - so he likely to be your Alfred?

On the passenger list 1883 he's just listed as a visitor not a settler.

Is this his marriage?

Marriages Sep 1869 (>99%)
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JONES Alfred Hewlett W.Derby 8b 803
SCHUHMACHER Elizabeth W. Derby 8b 803

This is the family in 1901, Elizabeth is married, no husband:

1901 England Census
about Arthur S Jones Name: Arthur S Jones
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Leigh, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton under Lyme Holy Trinity
Town: Ashton Under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Jones 52
Frederick C Jones 25
William L Jones 22
Arthur S Jones 20
Edward J Jones 18

Many thanks for the responses. Yes, his marriage was to Elizabeth Schuhmacher and it is Elizabeth and his 9 children, one only 3 months old who he left behind when he went on the City of Berlin. He was listed as a visitor and headed for Boston but this entry is the last known information about him.

Those who put him down on Ancestry as dying in 1893/94 are just guessing.

His wife Elizabeth always put herself down as married and head of the household so I think she assumed he was alive and living ?? America.

Marcia