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Desperate to find the maiden name of Dorothy married to John Motteshead a coalminer born Adlington, Parish of Prestbury, Ches. They were married around 1857.
Jean

Can you post some more details as I can't find this couple on any census.

Ok found them in 1861 as Mottershead:
1861 England Census
about John Mottershead
Name: John Mottershead
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Dorothy Mottershead
Gender: Male
Where born: Adlington, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Bollington
Town: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Bollington
John Mottershead 25
Dorothy Mottershead 26
Mary Mottershead 4
Hannah Mottershead 2
Maria Mottershead 3 MO

Possible:

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Barlow Elizabeth Macclesfield 8a 140
Beard Dorothy Macclesfield 8a 140
Highcock James Macclesfield 8a 140
Mottershead John Macclesfield 8a 140

Try this
Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
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Barlow Elizabeth Macclesfield 8a 140
Beard Dorothy Macclesfield 8a 140
Highcock James Macclesfield 8a 140
Mottershead John Macclesfield 8a 140

Jim

Confirmation of that marriage from Cheshire bmd:

MOTTERSHEAD John BEARD Dorothy Prestbury, St Peter Cheshire East

1851 poss
Name: Dorothy Beard
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Beard
Mother's name: Maria Beard
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bollington, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Bollington
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
James Beard 58
Maria Beard 45
Mary Beard 18
Dorothy Beard 17
Hannah Beard 15
Elizabeth Beard 13
William Beard 11

If this is the Dorothy I am looking for then her father could also possibly be my G.G.Grandfather James Beard but I thought his dob was 1805. and I have his wife as Martha. There were so many Beard's in that area erly 1800's.
Sorry about the delay, further info welcome. Thanks. Jean

Looks like the same family in 1841 but the marriage cert would confirm her father and his job. Hoever there is a well documented tree on Ancestery that lists the same family and her Dorothy's marriage to John on 21 Jan 1856
at St Peter's Church, Prestbury. The tree lists James Beard as marrying Maria Pennnington on 7 May 1832 at St Peter's Church, Prestbury . The parish records re the marriage and births are on the Family Search pilot (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start ) and lists the couple as living at the time of their marriage at Saltersford-cum-Kettleshulme.

In 1851 James was a licenced victuallar and ran a post office on Bollington Road. He was born in Derbyshire Chapel en le Frith. In 1861 he was an Innkeeper at Holly Bush, Gt High St, Bollington

1841

Name: Dorothy Beard
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Prestbury
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Bollington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Beard 48 Publican
Mariah Beard 35
Mary Beard 8
Dorothy Beard 7
Hannah Beard 5
Betty Beard 4

I used to frequent the Holly Bush in Bollington in my teens, it had a good folk singing night. It's still there!

Meg

from the new beta.familysearch site

www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

record of 2 of the Banns, and of their marriage



record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

name: John Mottershead
gender: Male
event type: Intended Marriage
banns date: 24 Dec 1855
banns place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
principal's residence: , Chelford, Cheshire, England
spouse's name: Dorothy Beard
spouse's residence: , Chelford, Cheshire, England
age: 21y
digital folder number: 4018852

record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

name: John Mottershead
gender: Male
event type: Intended Marriage
banns date: 30 Dec 1855
banns place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
principal's residence: , Chelford, Cheshire, England
spouse's name: Dorothy Beard
spouse's residence: , Chelford, Cheshire, England
digital folder number: 4018889



record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

name: John Mottershead
gender: Male
event type: Marriage
marriage date: 21 Jan 1856
marriage place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
father's name: John Mottershead
principal's marital status: Single
principal's residence: , Prestbury, Cheshire, England
spouse's name: Dorothy Beard
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's residence: , Prestbury, Cheshire, England
spouse's father: James Beard
age: 21y
digital folder number: 4018882




sylvia

Dorothy's information from the 1861 Census



Name: Dorothy Mottershead
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Mottershead
Gender: Female
Where born: Bollington, Cheshire, England






sylvia

from that same site


where's Pott-Shrigley??


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Dorothy Beard
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 22 Jun 1834
baptism/christening place: Pott-Shrigley, Cheshire, England
father's name: James Beard
mother's name: Maria Beard
indexing project (batch) number: I05271-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2105376





sylvia

from wiki

Pott Shrigley is a small village and civil parish in the unitary authority of Cheshire East and the ceremonial county of Cheshire, England. According to the 2001 census, the civil parish and village has a population of 220.[1] The nearest town is Bollington to the southwest.

The village has a Church of England primary school with around 50 pupils. The school was founded in 1492 and celebrated its 500th anniversary in 1992.[2]




so it's close to Bollington!




sylvia

I throw this one out as a possible marriage for James and Maria


record title: England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900

name: James Beard
gender: Male
event type: Marriage
marriage date: 07 May 1832
marriage place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
principal's residence: , Saltersford-cum-Kettleshulme, Cheshire, England
spouse's name: Maria Pennington
spouse's residence: , Saltersford-cum-Kettleshulme, Cheshire, England
digital folder number: 4011912


a little different information on this record:-

record title: England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

name: James Beard
gender: Male
event type: Marriage
marriage date: 07 May 1832
marriage place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
principal's residence: , Prestbury, Cheshire, England
spouse's name: Maria Pennington
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's residence: , Prestbury, Cheshire, England
digital folder number: 4018865




or there is a James Beard who marries a Mary Hill in 1826 in Taxall, Cheshire. And a James Beard who marries a Mary Evans in 1833 in Taxall .. ?? the same James??



sylvia

I think that the baptism for all the children shown in the 1841 and 1851 Censuses posted on here are on that familysearch site ..... I ahven't opened every record to check. They're all baptised in Pott-Shrigley.



The only Dorothy Beard that I could find on there with parents James and Martha was born ca 1841, baptised Taxall 1841




sylvia

Pott Shrigley is a hamlet (maybe not even qualifying as that!), but on the junction of the Adlington to Bollington road, with the road towards Kettleshulme is the church. It is right on the corner. It might be worth investigating as to its history. The churchyard is still open, my husband attended a burial there last year.

My maiden name was Beard and G.Grandfather James Beard from Lyme Handley in the same area. Have got records from Taxal Church graves and Jenkin Chapel, Saltersford. Looks like the name has come around again from my mothers side of family. Thanks to all but confused.
I thought Dorothy or John Motteshead could have been part of the mill owning families in Bollington or Macclesfield as 10 terraced cottages at Hurdsfield were sold in 1937 and left in a will passed down from daughter Maria who married a baker Joshua wood to their children. Thanks,Jean

Jean, Taxal Church is within walking distance of my home, if you want any photos of headstones let me know. Taxal is now in Derbyshire. Jenkin Chapel is in the same area, towards the Errwood Valley. I could visit that too.

Meg