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Jinet, it would have been so much easier if you had told us all this at the start
its pretty clear if no father is named then you are only going to be guessing.

Ernest Clifford was my Grt Grfather and a mystery. He married my Grt Grandma Mgt Ellen Burns in 1914 (certs). She Died in 1952. He then married in 1953 his name being on cert. Ernest Clifford Neve formerly known as May.
Ernest Clifford Neve May birth on 1891 census gives birth as Norfolk I have cert says Ernest Clifford, no father, mother Esther Neve nee Copland in workhouse, lingwood, norfolk.

In the 1881 Census John Jos May (poss father) aged 21 years working as a Driller in a factory, his wife Dorothy aged 18 years (cant find death reg) and daughter Annie Burns aged 8 mo.

In the 1901 Census John Joseph May aged 43 years a Plasterer along with his wife Ellen aged 35 years (cant find birth or death reg) Ernest Clifford aged 10 years, Grace aged 4 years (cant find brith reg) and William Ernest aged 3 months. (ord cert.)

Finally in the 1911 Census John Joseph aged 51 years appears to be working as a general labourer with his 2nd wife (m.1953) Mary Elizabeth aged 31 son John William Ernest aged 10 years, Ethel Margaret aged 5 years.

Im just not sure now I am baffled to say the least. Any help with this would be absolutely fantastic in finding who Ernest's parents are.

regards
Jinet

Divorce was only for the rich in those days and need Parliament approval. Many just parted ways and either remarried bigamously or lived with a new partner and took on their surname if the was the woman

I'm confused too!

Is this the family in 1881?
1881 Census Ancestry
Name: Esther Neeve
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Neeve
Gender: Female
Where born: Buxton, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Loddon
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Loddon
Sub-registration district: Loddon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Neeve 21
Esther Neeve 20
Georgina Copland 19
George Copland 12


1891 Ancestry
Name: Ester R Neave
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Buxton Damas, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Lingwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Lingwood
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1538; Folio 110; Page 4

FMPast has her as:
Person: REAVE, Ester R
Address: Lingwood Workhouse, Workhouse Road, Lingwood
Along with son James R (age 10) and Ernest C age 3 (I think it should read 3 months)
Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Neve Ernest Clifford Blofield 4b 203

Have you found John in 1891?

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Ester NEVE
Date of departure: 10 November 1892
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Wellington
Destination country: New Zealand

Date of Birth: 1861 (calculated from age)
Age: 31
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 6
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Infant NEVE
James NEVE age 11
Ship: TONGARIRO
Official Number:
Master's name: F Mayoss
Steamship Line: New Zealand Shipping Company
Where bound: Wellington, New Zealand
Square feet: 2500
Registered tonnage: 4163
Passengers on voyage: 144


Sorry if I have the wrong family!!!

Maureen

Hi Linsey,

Thanks for that, I did'nt see that one.

She is using so many variants of her real name its getting confusing.

thank you
Jinet

1901 England Census about Easter Neeve
Name: Easter Neeve charwoman widow/ ??
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Gender: Female
Where born: South Wootton, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Gaywood
Ecclesiastical parish: Gaywood St Faith and Highgate
Town: Gaywood
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration district: Castle Rising

No but I am going to send for it, just discovered it earlier today.

Divorce was most unusual at that time, have you got his second marriage cert ?

Hi,

Can someone please tell me how I go about looking to see if there was a divorce in 1899.

I have John Wm Neve married in 1879 then again in 1899 can't find death of 1st wife so hoping this will help me further.

Thank you for any help
Jinet