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Thanks to Maureen on GR I have the following information.

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Ester NEVE
Date of departure: 10 November 1892
Port of departure: London
Destination port: Wellington
Destination country: New Zealand

Date of Birth: 1861 (calculated from age)
Age: 31
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 6
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Infant NEVE
James NEVE age 11
Ship: TONGARIRO
Official Number:
Master's name: F Mayoss
Steamship Line: New Zealand Shipping Company
Where bound: Wellington, New Zealand
Square feet: 2500
Registered tonnage: 4163
Passengers on voyage: 144

I have looked on Ancestory to find their return but can't find any entries. I know (infant Neve) Ernest Neve, definately returned as he married in Newcastle upon tyne in the year 1914.

Can someone please advise me where I may find this info.

Thank you in advance
Jinet

Can only see this one from New York, which you must have discounted:


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Mr Ernest Neve
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 20 Sep 1909
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Minnehaha
Search Ship Database: View the 'Minnehaha' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Atlantic Transport Line
Official Number: 110520

Strangely, I'm not seeing a Newcastle marriage for 1914?

Just before they left;

1891 England Census
about Ernest C Neave
Name: Ernest C Neave
Age: 3 Weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Lingwood, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Lingwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Lingwood
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Blofield
Sub-registration district: Blofield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9


Ester R Neave 30
James R Neave 10
Ernest C Neave 3 Weeks

With many others.

So Ernest's middle name was Clifford.

Did he marry using a different surname???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Ernest C N May
Name: Ernest C N May
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Burns
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 348



waves to A.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xx



Dee x

He's not the one who died in 1939, St. Leonards on Sea, is he? He left an estate of over 10,000 pounds!

An Ernest Neve married in 1914 but in Forehoe, Norfolk to Laura Hammond.

Hi,

Marie Celeste and BatMansDaughter, Sadly it is not him in 1909 returning as he appears in the 1901 census living in Northumberland.

I dont think his mother married John J May as there appears to be no marriage but he did take on the name May. He then Married under the name May, then dropped it again in 1943 at his 2nd marriage. (on his marriage cert. as formerly known as May)

MadBull, Curiously my Nanna on her marriage cert for 1940 says he is deceased. I was told it was because he ran off and left the family. However, it turns out he was living not very far away.

Thanks for the help, I really do appreciate any help given.
Jinet

Sorry Edited as made a mistake.

He might have been back in England by the 1911 census:

LANGMAN, Henry Head Married M 56 1855 Coal Miner Hewer Beeralston Devonshire
LANGMAN, Mary Camilla Wife Married 35 years F 54 1857 Callington Cornwall
LANGMAN, Francis Ellen Daughter Single F 23 1888 Brick Factory Girl Seghill Northumberland
LANGMAN, John Henry Son Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Putter Below Ground Seghill Northumberland
LANGMAN, Evelina Daughter Single F 17 1894 Seghill Northumberland
LANGMAN, Edith Daughter Single F 15 1896 Seghill Northumberland
LANGMAN, Sidney James Son M 9 1902 Seghill Northumberland
>>MAY, Ernest Clifford Boarder Single M 20 1891 Coal Miner Putter Below Ground N K

Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Cramlington Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Cramlington

Address: 6 Double Junction Row Cramlington Colliery Cramlington
County: Northumberland

** What was his occupation on his marriage certificates?

Hi,

On his marriage cert. in 1914 he is a platelayer on railways, which also appears on my Nanna's birth cert for 1920.
on his marriage cert. in 1953 he is a General Dealer.
On his Death Cert it says Hairdresser (Retired).
On my Nanna's marriage cert in 1940 is says Master Barber

regards

Jinet

Not having any luck on Ancestry to or from New Zeakabd for Neve. What is their surname on the 1901 census as I can't find anything on that either!

I'm a bit puzzled by Esther's circumstances in 1891 and her move the following year. Did she follow her husband do you know?.

There is a John Neve and Esther in 1881 census living in Norfolk

Regards

Vera.

1901 England Census
about Ernest C May
Name: Ernest C May
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John J May
Mother's Name: Ellen May
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Cramlington
Ecclesiastical parish: Seghill
Town: Cramlington Low Colliery
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Earsdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
John J May 41 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Ellen May 35 Bristol, Somerset, England
Ernest C May 10
Grace May 4 Born Bath, Somerset, England
William E May 8 Months Born Seghill, Northumberland, England


I couldn't see a birth for Grace.


Dee x

Thanks for that Batmmansdaughter. I was pulling my hair out looking for Esther although I did look for May without any luck.

Vera