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Who could register a birth in the mid 1930s?

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Pocahontas

Pocahontas Report 25 Feb 2011 17:42

I have a birth certificate of a relative and I have no idea who the person was who registered the birth, who apart from the mother and father ( if married) was allowed to register the birth in those days?

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 25 Feb 2011 17:53

It could be any one of the following:-


(1) In all cases - mother

else:-

(2) Father - if he is married to mother

(3) Father and mother jointly where they are not married to one another

(4) A person present at the birth

(5) The owner or occupier of the house or institution where the birth took place

(6) The person in charge of the child

AllanC

AllanC Report 25 Feb 2011 17:58

You beat me to it, InspectorGreenPen. But just to add that the current rules (and I don't think they've changed much) can be found at www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Registeringlifeevents/Birthandadoptionrecords/Registeringorchangingabirthrecord/DG_175608

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 25 Feb 2011 18:06

You also need to look at the address and put it in context with what you know about the mother.

For example we have a birth which was registered under (5) about 20 miles from where mother lived. She got pregnant when her future (as we now know) husband came home from leave in 1817 and was sent to a home of some sort to have her daughter.

The informant was the proprietor of the home.

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 25 Feb 2011 18:51

I've got one like that which has puzzled me. My first cousin's grandfather born1869 in Salford. The address is correct. The father is correct. The mother was Sarah Ann but the person who registered the birth is an unknown - and just put Anne. it follows with the comment the mark of xxx occupier.

I have all the certs of the children before and after but that one is a surprise. Even my cousin can't explain and there is nobody alive to ask.

Perhaps the more experience rsearches an explain it
Susanne

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 25 Feb 2011 19:46

Sometimes a relative or house owner might register a child under one of the above qualifying criteria.

I have a copy of a birth certificate (1882) where a father has registered his illegitimate daughter. He has not named himself in the father's column ( perhaps he wasn't allowed to as he was unmarried ? ) but in the informant column his name is there followed by 'father'.


Gwyn

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 25 Feb 2011 21:18

AllanC & Gwyn in Kent

I've never thought of looking up the info before. Thanks for the link - Just read the guide. Very useful - you learn something new every day

Thanks

Susanne

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 26 Feb 2011 12:15

I do agree that people were often known as just part of their name.
One of mine was registered Silvey, baptised as Sylvia Jane and was usually Jane on her children's birth certificates.


Wouldn't Anne have acknowledged her status as 'mother' though?

Is there no surname?

Gwyn

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 27 Feb 2011 01:02

After reading the goverment link advise by AllanC, I've now understood how the cert was issued.

For PigletsPal to understand the issue . The person who actually registered the birth was a Louise Clowes who doesn't exist in the famlily. After her name it reads mark of occupier. Why the parents didn't register him is lost in history. I just presumed that Sarah was known locally a Ann so the lady who registered the birth used the name she knew Sarah Ann as.

The known name of a person or the use of a second name seemd to be a common trait in my family all branches. I've probably collected more certs than necessary just proving who is who because the names don't match with the census records.

Susanne

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 27 Feb 2011 06:41

It sounds to me that was nothing particularly unusual about this.