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passenger list, says “shut out of Berar, and ‘selected by Emigration and Colonists Aid Corp.” Caroline is listed as “T/F to single women”
This is beside the manifest for my ggrandparents coming from England to NZ in 1875 onboard the Avalanche. The Berar was another ship, but what does 'shut out' mean? Would there be records of Emigration and Colonists Aid Corp anywhere, and what is T/F?
Thanks for any tips.
Janet

Could T/F means "transfer"?
There might be sections of the ship just for single men and single women?

I have found this website that gives more information on the Emigration and Colonists Aid Corp -

http://baileynz.tripod.com/manchest.htm

????? T/F = transferred to single women????????



was she a single woman?

Hi Lynne


great minds!!!



sylvia

thanks for the help , Caroline was the stepdaugther, adn she was single, and they did have separate quarters for singles, so that makes sense. What about the "Shut out of Berar" thing, that sounds a bit ominous!?

I found this on -

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/BerarPerrinFamily.htm

They embarked on 15the October 1874 from the South-west dock of the East India Docks of London. A quotation from Walter Savill of Shaw Savill & Co gives a first hand impression of the conditions there in those days - The traveller was faced with a scene of pandemonium and filth. There was a forrest of masts and bowsprits of ships berthed bow-to on the quay. Noise of porters, milling crowds, baggage cargo, dock workers, crew, horses and carts. The Berar had a full complement of 362 passengers:- 135 male, 100 female, 53 boys, 58 girls, 16 infants. Their nationalities were 324 English, 5 Scotch, 25 Irish, 6 French, 1 German, 1 Indian. Charles kept a diary, a full and lively description of their voyage until 20 December 1874, by which time his black notebook (with an Almanac for 1874 in the front) was full of his pencilled account.


I wonder if it just means that they couldn't get on board because it was full???

Have you see this?


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/avalanche1875.htm

It is quite interesting reading about the Avalanche

thanks everyone, I think it could mean the ship was full - who knew they overbooked voyages half way around the world back then. Thanks Lynne for the description of gettting on board, very interesting. I did read about them landing in New Plymouth, and somewhere online there is a diary someone kept of that voyage - pretty harrowing - can't find it right now. (I should have kept better records when I was browsing) The fate of the Avalanche is interesting too, she went down with most of her passengers in the Thames harbor just two years later. Captain's era, tacked the wrong way into an incoming American ship. "Screams were heard in the foggy night, then silence...."