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I really do think they are the family brummiejan as Dinah's mum was called Jane, and I think Jane was named after her nan. Still can't prove the chuffing thing though lol. I'm going to have to pay out to prove it. It is a funny connection that she has to the family and I won't bore you going into it, needless to say she intrigues me. Thanks again for your help (",)

Obviously only the birth or marriage certificate will confirm whether what has been found is accurate or not.

Just in case it is here is the marriage of Dinah's mother to Joseph Pywell (not likely to be Dinah's father):

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
PYWELL Joseph Birmingham 6d 123
MILBURN Jane Birmingham 6d 123

Jane who was born in Scotland died in West Bromwich in 1874.

Dinah's parents in 1851:
Name: Jasper Milburn
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jean Milburn
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bellingham, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: Ocker Hill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members:
Name Age
Jasper Milburn 42
Jean Milburn 37 born Newton Trent, Scotland
Jennet Milburn 17
Ann Milburn 15
John Milburn 13
William Milburn 9
Sarah Milburn 7
Thomas Milburn 2
Dinah Milburn 4 MO

Even mentions Stockingford as in birthplaces 1911:

1891 England Census

Name: Dinah Eales
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Eales
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Nuneaton
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockingford
Town: Stockingford
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub-registration district: Nuneaton

William Eales 41
Dinah Eales 41
Agnes Eales 18
Thomas Eales 16
Florence Eales 13
Patrice Eales 10
William Eales 8
Sun Eales 6
Edith Eales 2

Thank you so much Brummiejan & Jonesey. You have both found the same information as me, though it took me a lot chuffing longer than it did you 2 lol. I too think that Dinah and William are her parents Jonesey, but can't prove it. I think she is their first born child, but can't understand why she is not with them on the 1881 census, or anywhere else for that matter. Thank you so very much both for helping me on this. I don't really want to buy her certificate in case she is not one of our relatives but think it is the only way I can prove if she is related or not.

The above family as found by Jonesey - surely must be connected as now in Nuneaton. But where is Jane if so?:

1881 England Census

Name: Dinah Eales
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Eales
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Nuneaton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: Swan Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub-registration district: Nuneaton

William Eales 30
Dinah Eales 30
Agnes Eales 8
Thomas Eales 6
Florence Eales 2

The only likely looking Eales family living in West Bromwich in 1871 would appear to be this one.

1871:
Name: William Eales
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son-in-Law
Spouse's Name: Dinah Eales
Gender: Male
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Pywell 55
Jane Pywell 55
Annie White 13
William Eales 21
Dinah Eales 20

It might be significant as in 1911, (Found by Jan) her birthplace is shown as Great Bridge. In 1871 the Eales family are living in Great Bridge.

The above couples marriage:

Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
EALES William W. Bromwich 6b 1115
MILBURN Dinah W. Bromwich 6b 1115

Doesn't help in the least, but 1911 in case you don't have it:

WARMINGTON, George H Married M 36 1875 Coal Miner Underground Drayton Oxfordshire VIEW
WARMINGTON, Jane Elizabeth Wife Married 5 years F 39 1872 Great Bridge Staffordshire VIEW
WRIGHT, Jane Daughter By Law Single F 20 1891 Tailoring Chaple End Warickshire VIEW
WRIGHT, Florrie Daughter By Law Single F 18 1893 Tailoring Stockingford Warickshire VIEW
WRIGHT, Charles Son By Law M 15 1896 Brickyard Labourer Stockingford Warickshire VIEW
WRIGHT, Mabel Daughter By Law F 12 1899 School Stockingford Warickshire VIEW
WARMINGTON, George Son M 1 1910 Stockingford Warickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18459 Reference:
RG14PN18459 RG78PN1108 RD388 SD1 ED13 SN262

Registration District:
Nuneaton Sub District:
Nuneaton Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Chilvers Coton

Address:
196 Arbury Road Chilvers Coton County:
Warwickshire

That is the right marriage Jonesey, I think I have found her family, but need proof, I will have to send off for their certificate. Thanks for your help. I thought that might be the case Slartibartfast, was hoping I was wrong lol.

Thank you both (",)

This then presumably is her first marriage:

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
Ealer Jane Elizabeth Nuneaton 6d 727
WRIGHT Charles Nuneaton 6d 727

A copy of the certificate should give details of her father if she knew them.

Likewise a copy of her birth certificate should name both her parents if her mother was indeed married at the time of her birth.

Hi Jonesey,

Yes your right it was West Bromwich. I know she married Charles Wright in 1890 and then she married George Warmington in 1905, but I can't find anything about her from her birth up to her marriage. Sorry to send you on a wild goose chase by giving you wrong info.......(",) Thankyou for checking for me.

Question one. Are you certain that she was born in Castle Bromwich as this looks an unlikely coincidence:

Births Sep 1871 (>99%)
EALES Jane Elizabeth West. Bromwich 6b 702

I presume that you meant the 1891 census where she first appeared as a married lady. I cannot spot a marriage for her before 1891. What was her married surname in 1891?

In this particular case I am not sure that the electoral roll is likely to help you unless you know the exact addresses where she was living.

Hi all,

Would anyone know when the Electoral Roll started in England and if it would be of any use to me when searching for a female b1871? I'm trying to find Jane Elizabeth Eales b1871 Castle Bromwich, she is not showing on any census until the 1991 by which time she is married. If the electoral roll is no good would anyone know what other information I could search to try and find where she could be and with whom she lived. I know she moved to Nuneaton at some point and would like to find out her parents name and at what point they moved.

Thanking you in advance of any advice given. Kerry (",)