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I'm trying to help an older friend of mine get to grips with his tree, and I could really do with some help/advice.
I've got John Carter b abt 1879 (East) Wickham, Kent in the 1901 Census, living in Croyden with his Wife, Elizabeth, and daughter Edith.
I've looked up the Marriage of John & Elizabeth and found 2 different surnames for his wife : Elizabeth Hopkins and Elizabeth Sarah Bowers. Both names found in BMD,cross referenced to John Carter, Dartford, Kent Vol 2a p1047. I'm confused. Why are there 2 different surnames for wife? As I have no details for family further back than this, even if I send for both marriage certificates, how the heck do I know which one is the correct spouse? :S
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There are 4 names on a page, 2 males, 2 females. You have to find out which Elizabeth married John Carter and which married the other male on the page.
To do so find the couples on the 1901 census to get birth year and place then look for the same ladies in 1891 under their maiden names to see which one matches John Carter's wife.
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For ref only
1901 England Census
about John Garter Name: John Garter
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Garter
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Piece: 644
Folio: 15
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Garter 22
Elizabeth Garter 25 born Greenwich
Edith Garter 9 Months
Andy
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This is the other family
John Tulett 31
Elizabeth Tulett 32 born Eynsford
Hilda Tulett 2
Eva Tulett 1
Andy
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I'd say the Bowers married Tulett.
1881 census transcription details for: London Road Pedham Place Farm Cottages, Farningham
RG number: RG11 Piece: 869 Folio: 53 Page: 14
Reg. District: Dartford Sub District: Farningham
Parish: Farningham Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: London Road Pedham Place Farm Cottages, Farningham
County: Kent
JOHNSON, Alfred Head Married M 30 1851 Ag Lab Waggoner
Crockenhill
Kent
JOHNSON, Jane Wife Married F 43 1838
Crockenhill
Kent
>>>JOHNSON, Elizabeth Bowers Daughter Single F 14 1867 Scholar
Crockenhill
Kent
JOHNSON, Samuel Bowers Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Crockenhill
Kent
JOHNSON, Mary Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Crockenhill
Kent
>>>JOHNSON, Alice Daughter Single F 0 1881
Crockenhill
Kent
STRINGER, Edward Boarder Single M 26 1855 Ag Lab Waggoner
Eynsford
Kent
CLOLITH, Edward Boarder Single M 14 1867 Stable Boy Ag Lab
Eynsford
Kent
1911 census transcription details for: Foundry Road Crockenhill Kent
RG14PN3803 RG78PN144 RD43 SD4 ED10 SN171
Reg. District: Dartford Sub District: Farningham
Parish: Eynsford Enum. District: 10
Address: Foundry Road Crockenhill Kent
County: Kent
TULETT, Elizabeth Head Widow F 43 1868 Charing Kent Crockenhill
TULETT, Hilda Daughter F 12 1899 School Kent Crockenhill
TULETT, Eva Daughter F 11 1900 School Kent Crockenhill
TULETT, Marjorie Daughter F 6 1905 Kent Crockenhill
JOHNSON, Alice Sister Single F 30 1881 Jam Factrory Worker Bottler Kent Eynsford
Maureen
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1911 ?? name of wife and number of years married
CARTER, John Head Married M 31 1880 Labourer East Wickham Kent VIEW
CARTER, Lillie Wife Married
8 years F 29 1882 Croydon Surrey VIEW
CARTER, Edith Daughter F 10 1901 School Greenwich VIEW
CARTER, Lydia Daughter F 9 1902 Croydon VIEW
CARTER, Lillie Daughter F 4 1907 Plumstead Kent VIEW
CARTER, John William Son M 2 1909 Welling Kent VIEW
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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3732 Reference:
RG14PN3732 RG78PN141 RD43 SD1 ED12 SN138
Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Bexley Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Bexley
Address:
2 Bostall Row Church Road Bexleyheath County:
Kent
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Thanks to all who replied with advice. My John Carter was married to Elizabeth Hopkins in 1898, then married Lillian Godfrey in abt 1903... just started to look for Elizabeth's death...
Once again thanks and well done, these boards, and the folk who answer queries are great!
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