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Would anyone be willing to look up for a William Fredrick Osbourne / Osborne please? He was born around 1900 - 1904 in the London area/ Essex.

It's for my friend as it's her grandfather and he just disappeared when her mum was born so she doens't have much info. Her mum was born in Birkenhead, and she doens't know whether his family moved there or just her grandfather. His full name was William Frederick Nelson Osbourne.

William Frederick's father's name was William Samuel and he was a licensed Victualler in 1924. As far as I know he always worked in a pub..

I don't know when his father was born but would take a guess at around 1875 - 1880.

I found a William Samuel b1881 in Fareham Hampshire, so it might be worth looking at him

I also found a Samuel William b 1878 Lambeth London if that's any help. I can only view the free bit.


Many thanks for any help.

Regards, Lou

will take a look

have you found his actual birth cert as cant see him ?
Theres LOADS of William Osbourne/Osborne etc so it would be a mammoth task to identify the family.
Do you know his mums name or any siblings that would be on the 1911 census

The only William Frederick Osbourne birth that is showing up 1901~1904

Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
Osbourne William Frederick Newmarket 3b 496

Hi Shirley,

I'm afraid she doens't know his mum or dad's name or if indeed there are any siblings.

I've been looking on the 1901 census on Ancestry to see if I can narrow it down too, without much success.

All she knows was that he was supposed to have come from London. I did think with 3 christian name's I'd be able to find him easily enough, but it's proving to be a very hard task indeed.

She has his marriage certificate but the witness are not Osbourne's either. The female witness is a Florence Amy Gibson which also isn't a name connected to the bride either.

So frustrating.

Lou

????

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Osborn William Frederick Halstead 4a 846

Interestingly although only one birth shows in the England/Wales birth registers in March quarter 1904 there are two death records for a William Frederick Osbourne born in March 1904.

Name: William Frederick Osbourne
Birth Date: 4 Mar 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1992
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 9
Page: 893

Name: William Frederick Osbourne
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Volume: 1
Page: 1579

Of course neither may not be the man that you are interested in.

Thers no birth for a William Frederick Nelson Osboune/Osborne etc.

The marriage cert for him would show his age

so this is the marriage. she should know his age from it

Name: William F N Osborne
Spouse Surname: Reynolds
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1924
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 1013
Find Spouse:Florence M Reynolds

???? only one I can see that is pub related !
OSBORN, William Head Married
14 years M 36 1875 Potman Bethnal Green - Licensed victualler employer
OSBORN, Ellen Wife F 35 1876 Bethnal Green VIEW
OSBORN, William Son M 10 1901 Bethnal Green VIEW
OSBORN, Ruben Son M 7 1904 Bethnal Green VIEW
OSBORN, Robert Son M 5 1906 Bethnal Green VIEW
OSBORN, Margaret Daughter F 2 1909 Bethnal Green VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1405 Reference:
RG14PN1405 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED24 SN262

Registration District:
Bethnal Green Sub District:
Bethnal Green North East Enumeration District:
24 Parish:
Bethnal Green

Address:
1 Tuscan St Bethnal Green County:
London

1901 for the same family
Name: William E Osborne
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Osborne
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: Poyser street

Occupation: Potman/barman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 270
Piece: 285
Folio: 103
Page Number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
William E Osborne 26
Ellen Osborne 25
Edward Osborne 4
William Osborne 3/12



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 285; Folio: 103; Page: 46

maybe not !!.he appears to be this one
Name: William Thomas Osborn
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 138

Hi Everyone,

Many thanks for your replies;

On his marriage cert for Dec 1924 it states he is 22 a bachelor and a barman living in Liverpool. It also says his father's full name of William Samuel a Licensed Victualler and is deceased;

What do you think of this as a possibility;

Henry Osborne b 1842 Brundish, Suffolk; Drayman
Sarah wife b 1839 Laxfield, Suffolk
William son b 1874 Wandsworth; Drayman
George Osborn b 1880 Wandsworth son. George became a Blacksmith;
The family were living at 70 North Street Wandsworth; RG13; Piece: 483; Folio: 5; Page: 1.

Regards, LOu

Well he seems to have taken a bit of poetic license with his name as theres no births for a william frederick nelson . so wonder if the other info is correct ??

No deaths listed either !!

he now appears to be a labourer
CHANDLER, William Head Lodger Married M 60 1851 Painter Battersea VIEW
CHANDLER, Caroline Lodger Married F 42 1869 Laundress Dorsetshire VIEW
ROMAN, Margaret Lodger Married F 53 1858 Laundress Clapham VIEW
OSBORNE, Henry Lodger Single M 32 1879 Labourer Wandsworth VIEW
OSBORNE, William Lodger Single M 35 1876 Labourer Wandsworth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
DENNISS, Ada Lodger Single F 22 1889 Charwoman Wandsworth VIEW
GOULD, Thomas Lodger Single M 25 1886 Labourer Battersea VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2397 Reference:
RG14PN2397 RD26 SD7 ED6 SN162

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Southfields Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Wandsworth

Address:
1 Olive Cottages the Plain Wandsworth S W County:
London

Shirley, I am wondering whether he made up the extra christian names. They married in Dec of 1924 his child was born in May 1925 and just 2 wks after her birth he disappeared, and nothing was ever heard from him again. His full name is on his marriage and his daughter's birth certificate's, but that doens't mean it's correct does it? The brides father was a grocer so maybe he just added the extra names to make himself sound important - or am I just catching straws???

Thanks Shirley, Jonesey and Safc for all your help. I have made a note of all the birth details you have found and will pass them onto her.

I am afraid I have to log off now and can't log on again untill tomorrow as ma in law is having an op just now and I have to get hubby and go the hospital.

But thanks so much Shirley and everyone else, you've been terrific.

Regards, Lou

My grandmother had two middle names on her marriage cert that she was not given at birth.

She had not seen a copy of her birth cert at that time and thought they were her names.

As she was the last of 16 children maybe the family had forgotten what they called her?

jax

Hi Jax,

Sorry for the delay, That's really interesting, so thanks for that. I was wondering if he made it up. I shall pass your comments on to my friend.

Thanks again, Lou

OSBORN, David William Head Married M 42 1869 Horsekeeper Farm Greestead Green Essex
OSBORN, Alice Annie Wife Married
7 years F 31 1880 Greestead Green Essex
OSBORN, William Frederick Son M 7 1904 Parish of Halstead EX
OSBORN, Gertrude Alice Daughter F 3 1908 Parish of Halstead EX

WELLS, Dorothy Annie Lodger Single F 18 1893 Silk Weaver Parish of Halstead EX