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Frederick Augustus Self 1859 left on 25 Aug 1897 for New York returned 31 July 1910 Attorney, brother Albert E 1871 disappeared after 1891 Census. returned to England from N York Aug 1924 and went back in Nov 1824 Representative. think Charles John born 1867 might also have gone.

Any trace of them in the USA or on boat trips would be gratefully received

Thanks

Name: Albert E Self
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1894
Birth Year: abt 1870
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Paris

Name: Albert E Self
Arrival Date: 3 Oct 1907
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: eastbourne
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Adriatic

??? note nationality shown
Name: Fred A Self
Arrival Date: 1 Sep 1890
Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: American
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Servia

Name: Fred A Self
Arrival Date: 29 Aug 1894
Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Occupation Clerk
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Majestic

Name: Mr. F A Self
Arrival Date: 3 Sep 1892
Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: English
Occupation Attorney
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Lahn

Nothing showing for Charles J Self travelling to New York.

1910 US census

Name: Albert Self
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1892
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeta B Forden 49
Samuel S Forden 72
Samuel F Aikley 21
Percival Grant 21
Nettie Huffman 36
[26]
Albert Self 39
W G Rice 25
Mary Gadson 60
Albert Krueger 25
[26]
John Eleks 22

???
Name: Albert E Self
Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1893
Marriage Location: Jackson, Kansas City, Missouri
Spouse Name: C Marian Francis

N.B. No birthplace or parents details shown.

Pennsylvania index 1910
Name: Self Marian Francis
Birthplace: England
State: PA
Age: 40
Colour: W;W
Enumeration District: 0431
Visit: 0091
County: Philadelphia, Philadelphia
Relation: Boarder
Other Residents:
Relation Name Age Birth Place
Head of Household Clara Joralemon

English Probate Calendars
Name: Caroline Marian Self
Probate Date: 3 Dec 1941
Death Date: 7 Feb 1941
Death Place: United States of America
Registry: Lewes

Died a widow. Administration to a Gladys Dorothy Durrant wife of Reginald Jack Durrant.


1900 US census???
Name: Fredrich A Self
[Fredrick L Self]
Home in 1900: Fall River Ward 7, Bristol, Massachusetts
[Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts]
Age 40
Birth Date Oct 1859
Birthplace England
Race White
Gender Male
Immigration Year 1878
Relationship to head-of-house Head
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Spouse's Name Marietta Self
Marriage year: 1884
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 16
Occupation Musician Teacher
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members
Name Age
Fredrich A Self 40
Marietta Self 36 born Canada
Winifred R Self 14 born Michigan

Hi Jonesey,

thanks for your very quick replies Albert Self emigrating in 1907 seems right as it mentiions Eastbourne, have found his wife's Probate records on Ancestry so can now get the complete Will and look for the Durrant familiy which may be back in the UK..

If Frederick was a musician then think the attorney entry is not correct, still not sure whether he went to USA in 1892 or 1894, at least you have given me some information to carry on with my search.

If you find anything further please let me know, will be out for the next few hours so please don't think I am rude if I do not reply immediately.

regards,

Lesley

If you look up the ship's manifest for 1907 on the Ellis Island website, Albert Self is a designer going to Philadelphia. His mother stayed in Hampden?? Park, Eastbourne. He was stamped as a Non Immigrant Alien.
He's an engraver in 1894.


http://www.ellisisland.org/


Also an engraver on this one.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Albert E Self
Name: Albert E Self
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1892
Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 21
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Servia

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Albert E Self
Name: Albert E Self
Birth Date: abt 1871
Age: 55
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1926
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Carmania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Carmania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 120901


Returning to Norfolk Villa, Hampton Park, Eastbourne. He was a secretary. He embarked at New York.


Marion Frances.


First Name: Marian Fransis
Last Name: Self
Ethnicity: England
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: May 24, 1895
Age at Arrival: Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Germanic
Port of Departure: Liverpool & Queenstown
Manifest Line Number: 0819

Hi everyone,

thanks again to you all, Ruth the mother of the Self brothers was living at Norfolk Villas, Hampden Park, Eastbourne living on own means (husband John had died in 1894) on the 1911 Census so it looks as if they owned that property although cannot find a Will.

Ruth died in 1914 in Suffolk looks like I need a trip to Eastbourne to look at electoral register.

Lesley