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A few people have very kindly helped me in finding out some information about my paternal grandmother: Christina Metcalfe (shown on birth certificate as Christiana Metcalfe). My dad always said & my uncle does now that they both believed that their mother was either Irish or Spanish. The details I have for Christina Metcalfe are as follows:-

Born: 23/04/1900
Name: Christiana Metcalfe
Father: Arthur Metcalfe (Railway Clerk)
Mother: Fanny Jane Simpson

I have found a Fanny Jane Simpson (dob c1880) that had married Arthur Metcalfe 13th Feb 1898 in Leeds but then accidentally came across a Fanny Simpson who was born in Spain (c1880) but a British Subject. I can find this Fanny Simpson on the 1911 Cencus as being a servant in County Durham.

Is it at all possible that I have followed the wrong path and been following the wrong Fanny Simpson? I can't find any other information on the latter Fanny Simpson? Has anyone got any advice they could give me please?

Many thanks

When did your grandmother die...was it after 1969 when hopefully her birthdate would be on the death certificate?

Have you got her marriage certificate with all the details of father's name and witnesses?

If you already have a thread about this search, just add a reply onto the bottom of it asking for more help.

Gwyn

Hi,

so this is the family??

1901 England Census
about Christina Metcalfe
Name: Christina Metcalfe
Age: 11 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Arthur Metcalfe
Mother's name: Fanny Jane Metcalfe
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Mary
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Piece: 4222
Folio: 114
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Metcalfe 24 Born Thirsk, Yorks
Fanny Jane Metcalfe 21 Born Melbourne, Yorkshire, England
Christina Metcalfe 11 Months


Dee x

1891 England Census
about Fanny J Simpson
Name: Fanny J Simpson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Melbourne, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sowerby
Ecclesiastical parish: Sowerby
Town: Sowerby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Thirsk
Sub-registration district: Thirsk
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3982
Folio: 82
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
William Hill 47
Mary Hill 46
Hannah E Simpson 15
Joseph J Simpson 13
Fanny J Simpson 11
Emily Marian Simpson 6
John Day 76
William Watson 56

1911 census - household transcription
Person: METCALFE, Christina
Address: 3 Vine St Commercial St Norton Malton

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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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METCALFE, Arthur Head Married M 34 1877 Railway Clerk Yorkshire Thirsk VIEW
METCALFE, Fanny Jane Wife Married
13 years F 31 1880 Dressmaker Yorkshire Pocklington VIEW
METCALFE, Irene Brenda Maria Daughter F 12 1899 School Yorkshire Thirsk VIEW
METCALFE, Christina Daughter F 10 1901 School Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
METCALFE, Sybil Daughter F 9 1902 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
METCALFE, Mary Josephine Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Yorkshire Whitby VIEW

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1881 England Census
about Fanny Simpson
Name: Fanny Simpson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Simpson
Mother's name: Mary Simpson
Gender: Female
Where born: Melbourne, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Melbourne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: York Road
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Pocklington
Sub-registration district: Pocklington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4732
Folio: 37
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Simpson 33
Mary Simpson 36
Hannah E. Simpson 5
Joseph Simpson 3
Fanny Simpson 1
Annie E. Jackson 20
William Jackson 19
Charles G. Welman 18


Parents also born Melbourne........... I would say that she was definately a Yorkshire lass!!!


Dee x

Probably another one of these family stories, I dont know what it was with these ancestors my grandmother said she was Irish and I have not found one person born outside of England in the last 200+ years and she was a Simpson too :-)

jax

Having probs editing the 1891 census for Christina.

She is actually the stepdaughter to William Hill........ so her mother emarried.

John Day is down as Father in Law.


Dee x

Thanks everyone but all the details everyone has put down I already have. I don't know when my grandmother died as she had 'disappeared' when my dad, uncle & aunt were very young, but they all seem to have a recollection of her maybe being Irish or Spanish and that's why, when I came across the Fanny Simpson (c1880) that was born in Spain, I wondered if I had started tracing the wrong branch of a tree!

Christina is also shown on her birth certificate as being Christiana which also made me wonder whether that was a Spanish spelling for Christina? So can I safely say do you think that the Fanny Simpson that was born in Spain is/was not her mother?

this is her birth I would think

Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
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Simpson Fanny Jane Pocklington 9d 72

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Hi Jax,

So can I safely rule out the other Fanny Simpson born in Spain?

I would say so.... the marriage cert will give her fathers name

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
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Metcalf Arthur Leeds 9b 583
Simpson Fanny Jane Leeds 9b 583


The one born spain was still unmarried in 1901 so cannot be the right one anyway

This is the other thread -

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1265459

You really should have added this question to that thread so that there is no duplication of research

Oops sorry, I've only been a member for a few months so all new to this and how the site works and where I should go to do what etc etc.

Thank you jax, Dee & Gwyn for your help.

Tina