Genealogy Chat

Hi LA
many thanks for checking it out for me, I suppose that you get more used to brick walls the longer you do this, every time I take a step forward I seem to take two back.
I guess I will take it as the same family because if you could not find any baptisms for Greenalls then as sure as eggs are eggs I will not be able to :-S
Once again thanks for taking the time.
M.

three mary's, 1 Margaret & 1 Richard in that batch with parents Thomas & Margaret

unfortunately the vicar was good at recording dob but no other details such as address or occ of father

it was very common to name the next child the same as one who had died so they could well be the same family

there are no other baptisms around that time for any Greenalls (or variants of the name) at St John's and unfortuantely burials are not online on lan-opc for those years

H all,
just when you thought I was gone for good, here I am again :-)

Can someone clarify this for me please, when you search on a batch No do you pick up anyone with the name of the father. the reason I am asking is because while trying to identify parents and siblings of Margaret Greenall (yes she has been on a linked thread, but this is somewhat different) I came across a father - Thomas Greenall batch No C007132 when I looked into this I got a list of children but there were three Mary Greenalls, one born 1793 one 1795 and one 1796 plus other named children. Is it likely these are from the same family??
The only explanation I could think of was either they belonged to a different Thomas or they had named subsequent babies after ones who had died, which is a sobering thought.
Advice will be much apprreciated. thanks M.

Hi LA
many thanks, goodness how on earth are we supposed to know when they finished having children, maybe it was something to do with no TV or radio :-D

I just cannot get used to how good you "helpers" are at finding out things, maybe I lose patience and get frustrated so give up too soon.

Once again thank you so much for your time.
cheers. M.

plus

Baptisms: 31 May 1818 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
Peter Breadbury - Son of Peter Breadbury & Ann
Abode: Windle
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: T. Pigot
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [140], Entry 1120
Source: LDS Film 1469036

Baptisms: 14 Dec 1823 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
Ann Breadbury - Daughter of Peter Breadbury & Ann
Abode: Windle
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: T. Pigot Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page [284], Entry 2269
Source: LDS Film 1469036

and the one that that batch no did not find (from lan-opc.org.uk)

Baptisms: 30 Jul 1815 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, Lancashire, England
James Bradbury - son of Peter Bradbury & Ann
Abode: Windle
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: W. Myers
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 64, Entry 510
Source: LDS Film 1469036

Your clothèdness is our thanks. ;-)

You're more than welcome..............

Hey you two,
the posts did cross and yes I have tried it and guess what "Eureka"
(but not running through the streets naked no matter how happy I am with results)

A huge thank you and I love you both to bits-
;-) ;-)

I also gave directions, as I'm sure you noticed, Janey,but I though that, in this instance, proving it could be done would be beneficial.....and as you can also see, I have advised her to try it herself.

Doing the search by clicking on the batch number eliminates all possibility of entering incorrect batch data

Flick ... I did give directions and kind of thought WB might like to do it personally ...

(We crossed in the post I guess WB -- go back and look above your post at my second one there.)

What I would advise is that you go back to the IGI, and try the procedure as outlined.........and you should get the result I did

Right.....this one?

JOHN BREADBURY Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 14 JUL 1802

Christening: 01 AUG 1802 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: PETER BREADBURY Family


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C036662 1788 - 1812 942.72 K29PR Book 6909473 Film


Sheet: 00


here's the full batch........as you can see the mother's name is NOT recorded!

Breadbury, British Isles
Father: Peter
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C036662
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Prepare selected records for download

International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 6 Find more British records by searching on the
updated FamilySearch site. Click here...

Select records to download - (50 maximum)
1. DINAH BREADBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 APR 1812 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

2. MARTHA BRADBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 SEP 1805 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

3. JOHN BREADBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 AUG 1802 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

4. JOSEPH BREDBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 MAY 1810 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

5. ROBERT BREDBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 FEB 1808 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England

6. BARBARA BRADBURY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 SEP 1800 Saint Helens, Lancashire, England


You must enter ONLY the parental info given...........nothing else

Hi Janey,
It is loosly linked cos John Bradbury's wife was Elizabeth Greenall,if that is the thread you are referring to. This thread is not about Find Ancestor but about "what am I doing wrong" generally and I have only given John Bradbury as the example that Flick asked for.
Up to now I have not had any luck trying to find anyone with batch No's and other folk seem to find loads of stuff. Soooo I need to find out whats wrong.
thanks for taking the time to reply :-)
M

It's the batch number that's wrong, WB.

It's C and then the rest are numbers, not letters: 036662

C036662 -- not CO46662 (and no spaces in it)

All batch numbers are one letter (C or M or I) followed by numbers.

search for Bradbury, father Peter, that batch number, British Isles

(no other info in the search)

and you'll be happy -- and glad you left the mother's name out. ;-)

Hi,
Ozi I reckon it must be me, I have not found one yet who has any siblings, and given that most of them were big families I think that says it all.
Flick the one I am trying to find at the moment is siblings for John Bradbury, father Peter Bradbury (sometimes spelt as Bredbury/Breadbury) Mother Ann
born c 1802 Windle Lancashire Batch No CO 36662

OOOps I have been putting the names in search and then putting in the batch No. not clicking on the original from the record, is that whats wrong??

It may be a case of too much info.

Once you get back before 1800, mother's name was commonly not recorded. Try using just father's name.

Or try just using surname. Batches aren't generally so big that you couldn't browse the results in not too much time.

As Flick says, give us an example.

But if this is about a thread you already have ... you know where to ask the question! You could add the link to the thread here.

Give us an example....so we can check for you

Can't hypothesise.............

However, can I just ask.............

Are you clicking on the Batch number on the original baptism record you have found, and THEN entering the surname plus the forenames of the parents?

Is this with a number of families or just one? If it's only one maybe there weren't any siblings or maybe they were christened elsewhere.

Ozi

Hi,
Can someone help please...
I think I must be doing something wrong here, everyone else seems to able to find the names of children/siblings using batch No's on family search.
I put the last name and then the name of father and first name of mother and the batch No but seem to get zilch, please please someone tell me what I am doing wrong. :-S :-S
going greyer by the day with frustration!!