Genealogy Chat

Hi Can any one tell me if it was known to get a divorce about 1860

I think it was possible but pretty unusual. What makes you ask?

Did a google search, this might be of interest

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3786994

Jan

i have discovered my Grt Grandmother was married twice,using her maiden name. The first was 1853 then 1868 her first husband didn't die till 1877.

There were a lot of bigamous marriages - sometimes people in the know turned a blind eye, or the person re-marrying could have 'assumed' that spouse no 1 had died.

Probably, as long as the witnesses to marriage no 2 didn't say anything, there was no way a Registrar or Clergyman would know that they weren't single or widowed; they'd have to accept the couple's declaration. Big brother wasn't watching so closely ;-)

so that means my grandfather was the son of her first marriage ( Glynn),but used the surname of her second marriag(Todd).I have been unable to find the baptism Of my grandfather under the name of Todd
Thanks Alan

Look for a birth registration (try freebmd) under

Mothers maiden surname
1st husband's surname
2nd husbands surname

Technically, the birth could be registered by a mother in the assumed father's surname. ie if Joan Smith was living with Adam Brown as his wife (without a legal piece of paper) she could register their child as Charles Brown, registered by Joan Brown previously Joan Smith!

If they weren't known as man and wife, the father would have to be at the registration and acknowledge paternity for the child to be registered in his surname (as well in more recent years, hers)

If the blood father wasn't present, then the child would take the name which the mother was using at the time.

And yes, it was quite common for a step-child to assume the step-father's surname. As long as it isn't/wasn't used fraudulently, you can use what ever name you choose.

my grt grandmother Charlotte Bygrave M Nathaniel Glynn 1853
Children John b 1854 Bethernal Green
henry b 1859 beyhernal Green
Charlotte m Robert Henry Todd 1868 engineer
My grandfather was henry Todd b1859-1860 hackney
so i asumme Henry was realy Glynn not Todd.
In both marriages Charlotte named Her father Daniel occ shop keeper.
If this is correct all our family have used our Surname as Todd not Glynn

Hmm - not sure if this is the correct birth

Henry Glynn
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1860
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 354

Baptism, but not Nathaniel - did he have a middle name he prefered to use?
Henry Glynn
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1860
Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1860
Father's name: William Glynn
Mother's name: Charlotte Glynn
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hackney St John
Borough: Hackney

Occ for father - labourer, residence - Workhouse. No dob given

Hi, Nathaniel had a middle name William after his father.Because i have been unable to find Charlotte & Henry Glynn's death,i think i am on the right track in thingkingCharlotte was a Bigamist.Have traced Charlotte & Henry Todd 1871 census london,& Charlotte 1881 South Shields where my grandfather lived & married he went to sea ,like his stepfather

Marriages Sep 1853
GLYNN Nathaniel William Bethnal G 1c 568

Deaths Dec 1877
Glynn Nathaniel 47 Bethnal Green 1c 160


and here is Nathaniel in 1871

Name: Nathaniel Glyne
[Nathaniel Glynn] >>> 'alternate info' added by an Ancestry user
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Matthew Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green

Household Members:
Name Age
Nathaniel Glyne 41
John Glyne 14 >>> son of Nathaniel


Nathaniel says he is a widower

and if you look at the image of the page there is also another person higher up Thomas Glyn aged 20 the grandson of Mary Kirby

Name: Thomas Glyn
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Matthew Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green

Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Kirby 71
Henry Kirby 36
Ralph Kirby 30
Thomas Glyn 20

could be a coincidence but it seemed like a coincidence :-)


but anyway it looks like Nathaniel and Charlotte were living separately, I wonder who the mother of son John was ?

Here is Nathaniel in 1861 , he says he is married

Name: Nathaniel Glynn
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Glynn
Mother's name: Mary Glynn
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green

William Glynn 70
Mary Glynn 70
Nathaniel Glynn 30
Charles Cook 36



this is the John Glynn in the 1871 census I think

Births Mar 1857
Glynn John Hackney 1b 343

it could be interesting to see who his mother was, Nathaniel could have been 'widowed' from his 'marriage' with someone else