Genealogy Chat

On the 1881 Census for Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich North-East I have an Ann Cadd born abt 1865 at "Dean Sanger North". Does any one know where this place is?

I'll take a stab at Deanshanger Northamptonshire which is where my Mum lives !

Theres are Cadds born

potterspury from 1863 which is in the next village

I don't think CADD was Ann's birth name.........

1871

Name: William Cadd
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hillesden, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Hillesden
Ecclesiastical parish: Hillesden
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Tingewick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 45
Piece: 1424
Folio: 62
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Cadd 30
William Cadd 10
Samuel Cadd 9
Walter Cadd 3

ALL b. Hillesden

In 1881, only Ann and her mother were born in Dean Sanger (sic)

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Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
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Andrews Mary Ann Buckingham 3a 623
Cadd William Buckingham 3a 623
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1871

Name: Mary Ann Andrews
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Ann Andrews
Gender: Female
Where born: Deanshanger
Civil parish: Passenham
Town: Deanshanger
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Potterspury
Sub-registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 1475
Folio: 119
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Andrews 27 Unmarried...........lace maker
Mary Ann Andrews 6

This looks like the mum - I don't see the daur

Births Dec 1843 (>99%)
Andrews Mary Ann Potterspury 15 365

The daughter's birth probably wasn't registered......she was illegitimate, and there were no penalties until 1875 for not registering

Hi all.

Many thanks for all your answers.

It would appear that this is one of those errors that occurs when transcribers are attempting to read old hand writing.

Also, it appears that I will have to confirm if William Cadd was a widower on the 1871 Census. If he is, then the marriage in 1872 will be correct and Ann Cadd's correct name should be Mary Ann Andrews.

David

Actually, the 'error' was not made by the transcriber. The image of the census return has been accurately copied.........the 'error' was by the enumerator.

William snr was indeed a widower in 1871, and you can cross-refer the details of his sons with 1881

1861 with his first wife......

Name: William Cad
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Cad
Gender: Male
Where born: Hillesden, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Hillesden
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Tingewick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 879
Folio: 51
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Cad 20
Mary A Cad 23 b. Preston, Bucks.
William Cad 5 MO
Mary Jeffs 75 Aunt, b. Chadlington, Oxon

Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
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Cadd William Buckingham 3a 659 <<
Hazel John Buckingham 3a 659
Staley Catharine Buckingham 3a 659
Stop Mary Ann Buckingham 3a 659 <<

I call DH the village of the damned, for a joke, but in 1861 it was full of paupers and lace makers on sweat-shop rates , children working from the age of 6

http://www.afamilystory.co.uk/history/northamptonshire-lace.aspx

Until the only red-lead factory in the country was built there, providing work, and turning the area red with pollution, there was little choice.

Hi all again

Once again many thanks.

Thanks Flick - I actually meant to type "transcriber/enumerator" but was distracted and only typed "transcriber". My apologies to the transcriber, whoever he/she is.

The 1861 census actually starts to make sense to me now, and, couple with the 1871 and 1881 census, I now appear to have the issue fixed.

Lindsey - thanks for the link.

David
Adelaide
South Australia