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Hi, I`m trying to find out where my gt gt gt grandfather Frederick William Garrard was born and when. There is an entry on Familysearch for a Frederic Garrard baptised 23rd Oct 1815 and giving his place of birth as St Clements,Ipswich. This is a Bishops Transcript for Suffolk (not sure where I would find an original copy of the baptism). There is also a birth at Colchester on 18th June 1820 with the baptism on 5th Jan 1821. The parents names are the same for both (jeremiah Garrard and Elizabeth). The censuses don`t help as the place of birth varies even though it is obviously the same man. In the 1841 census he is in Colchester and says he is not from the county,in 1851 he is in Ipswich and says he is from Colchester. In 1861 he is in Colchester and says he was born in Ipswich,in 1871 and until his death in 1884 he is in Ipswich and claiming to be born there. Confusing or what? Could anyone suggest a way to resolve this,please.
Terry

Frederick`s wife was called Mary Ann (sometimes written Maryann) Southgate,they married on 13th March 1843 at St Peter,Colchester,Essex.

What age does he give for himself. Its not unusual for new baby to be given the same name as one that died so maybe both baptisms are correct

this ties with an 1820 birth
1851 census
Name: Frederic Garrod
[Frederick Garrard]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marianne Garrod
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Colchester, Essex, England

Civil parish: Ipswich St Mary Stoke
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:Thurstead Rd

Occupation:engine fitter

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthedw
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1799
Folio: 62
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Frederic Garrod 32
Marianne Garrod 30
Frederic Garrod 11
Mariann Garrod 8
Esther Garrod 4
Martha Garrod 1



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1799; Folio: 62; Page: 12; GSU roll: 207448.

still consistent with an 1820 birth
1871 census
Name: Frederick Garced
[Frederick Garrard]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Garced
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Ipswich St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 182
Piece: 1751
Folio: 22
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Garced 50
Mary A Garced 54
William T Garced 16
Esther Garced 23
Elizabeth S Garced 17
Amelia E Murphy 7


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1751; Folio: 22; Page: 37; GSU roll: 830780.

i know you have these as you made the corrections but it helps US to set the scene .so to speak!

So if he was 50 in 1871 he would be 63/4 in 1884 at death not 68. But the info on any cert is as per the informants given info
Name: Frederick Garrard
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1884
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 461

Hi, thanks for replies. These are correct entries, his age varies a lot from census to census. The name Garrard is often misread due to census takers flowery writing.
Terry