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Submitted or Extracted????

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wellybobs

wellybobs Report 2 Aug 2011 20:27

Hi all,
can anyone please tell me if there is any way to determine if an entry on the "new Advanced" family search. org is submitted or extracted from the actual record. On the old system is clearly stated which was which now I am not so sure.
Many thanks. M.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 2 Aug 2011 20:34

You have a point..!! I have never thought about it until now....
Hope someone has the answer...

wellybobs

wellybobs Report 2 Aug 2011 22:23

Hi Eringobragh1916,
looks like we are on our own with this one..... sorry I don't know the answer either. ;-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 3 Aug 2011 04:14

I believe all the records on the new site are extracted

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 3 Aug 2011 07:24

Thank You mgnv.

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 3 Aug 2011 08:15

One way of making sure....

Note the 'source film number'.
Go to the home page and click on 'Catalog'.
Select 'Film Numbers' from the search drop down box.
Enter film number and click search.

That will give you details of the source for the entry.

Chris

Potty

Potty Report 3 Aug 2011 12:25

Also, if the entry has a batch number it will be extracted. In the "old" familysearch, you could click on Source to bring up the details, but in the new one you can't, so will have to follow Chris's directions.

I have noticed other posts that say that all the entries on the new familysearch are extracted.

wellybobs

wellybobs Report 3 Aug 2011 17:10

Hi,
thanks all for the replies, will follow your Instructions Chris, thanks again.
cheeers. M. :-)

Christine

Christine Report 4 Aug 2011 09:55

I had some correspondence with Familysearch some time ago about this and it was discussed on the following thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1253977

I copy/pasted their answers to my specific questions onto the thread.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 4 Aug 2011 10:46

Christine...Thank You for That..!!

I certainly didnt see your post first time around ... but then I have only recently began viewing posts on this board..

I have been doing it the "Long Way"...Using the FS site then X Ref against New Site....some entries are still coming up which dont have corrresponding "extraction" details..but then I only use it as a "Tool" for locating possibility/probability of Primary Source info.

mgnv

mgnv Report 4 Aug 2011 21:10

Here's an example - John Smith in Manhattan US 1910 census

Name: John Smith
Birthplace: New York
Relationship to Head of Household: Brother-in-law
Residence: Manhattan, New York, New York
Marital Status: Single
Race : White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Family Number: 167
Page Number: 8
Household Gender Age
James Mallon M 36y
Catherine Mallon F 36y
Rose Mallon F 6y
John Mallon M 5y
Catherine Mallon F 3y
George Mallon M 1y
Rosanna Smith F 72y
John Smith M 30y

There's really a paucity of identification of the record - just

Family Number: 167
Page Number: 8

Now New York Co, which consisted of the Bronx & Manhattan in 1910, extends over 53 NARA reels (i.e., 53 FHL films) and 1748 Enumeration Districts (and, I guess, 45000 census sheets), so although the info the give is helpful, it's hardly enough to locate the image, say at:
http://www.archive.org/details/1910_census