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Meaning of d. t. p.

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Huia

Huia Report 13 Aug 2011 07:49

Peter, are you in NZ? There was a recent death notice for a Crawshay in our daily paper.

Huia.

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 9 Aug 2011 01:53

Thanks Roy

My fault for not consulting the original properly - I had cut the extract from the PDF as text to paste into a word document, and it changed it!! It was the only letter that changed so looked to make sense when i read it - except that i didn't understand it.

Anyway - it's all sorted now

peter

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 7 Aug 2011 19:47

Found this on google

A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of Great ... - Google Books Result
books.google.co.uk/books?id=-P4UAAAAQAAJ...
John Burke - 1833 - History
William, who m. Miss Craw- shay, daughter of — Crawshay, esq. ironmaster, Merthyr Ted- vill, but dsp in 1828. 2. Emelia, tn. to the Rev. ...


It says dsp
the image is very clear

Roy

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 7 Aug 2011 19:09

Thanks

Obviously scanning changes the odd letter - the version I found definitely says t not s, but I'm happy to go along with it

Thanks again

Peter

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 7 Aug 2011 15:16

i·ne pro·le /'sa?ni 'pro?li, 's?ne?/ Show Spelled[sahy-nee proh-lee, sin-ey] Show IPA
noun Law .
without offspring or progeny: to die sine prole.

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Origin:
< Latin

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sine+prole

Roy

Persephone

Persephone Report 7 Aug 2011 11:45

Peter

I have looked in the book on google and the wording is
William who m. Miss Crawshay, daughter of - Crawshay esq ironmaster, ..............but d.s.p in 1828.

Not d.t.p

d.s.p is continually used in these books. it is demisit sine prole (died without issue))

Cheers Persie

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 7 Aug 2011 10:37

It's in a book - "A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of great britain"

Peter

Huia

Huia Report 7 Aug 2011 09:21

The question is, in what context did you find it? Was it on a headstone, or in parish records, or what?

Huia.

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 7 Aug 2011 09:11

I was thinking along the lines of died without progeny.....but I can't get the latin - middle word should be sine.....

Peter

K

K Report 7 Aug 2011 05:54

I suppose there is also the possiblity of - Departed this Parish?

Kay

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Aug 2011 04:56

possibly


departed this place

ie, died



sylvia

K

K Report 7 Aug 2011 04:39

If 1828 is a later date than they married could it is signify that one of them died i.e. death them parted ??

Kay

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Aug 2011 01:57

Well, OTP would be of this parish, but DTP..??

Andy

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 7 Aug 2011 01:28

I have found the following....

"William, who married Miss Crawshay... but d.t.p. in 1828"

Does anyone know what d.t.p. means?

Peter in NZ