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Christine

Christine Report 7 Aug 2011 20:14

Hi
Does anyone know someone named Elizabeth being called Martha !!!
I have Robert White married to a Martha and they have 5 children from 1822 to 1839. I have them together on the 1841 census.
Robert died 1849 but I have Martha 1851 and 1861. Her brother is resident with her in 1851 so I know her maiden name is Cowap
The problem is that the only marriage I can find is a Robert White to an Elizabeth Cowap in 1815.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
I hope this makes sense.................
Christine

kath23

kath23 Report 7 Aug 2011 20:19

Is it possible that Martha was her middle name ?

This has happened with me. For one ancestor there was no middle name on her birth certificate but on census she was sometimes Beatrice or Polly
Kath

Researching:
sims,Hale,Hamer,Wilkinson,Terry,Stinton,Nash,Connor

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 7 Aug 2011 20:57

ive never known an elizabath as a martha,but the possible thing is as KMH said,her middle name could have been martha.x

Researching:
price,lambert,goodlass,mcdonald

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 7 Aug 2011 21:09

Can you find a birth registration for any of the children born after 1837?
That should have the mother's name and maiden name.

Gwyn

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Aug 2011 23:20

Are these their childrem 1816-1839?

WHITE, Elisabeth Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1 Feb 1816 Recorded in: Ince, Cheshire, England
Collection: St James
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1655830 Dates: 1806 - 1817

WHITE, John Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 9 Apr 1819 Recorded in: Ince, Cheshire, England
Collection: St James
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha WHITE
Source: FHL Film 1655831 Dates: 1818 - 1901

WHITE, Joseph Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Mar 1822 Recorded in: Ince, Cheshire, England
Collection: St James
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha WHITE
Source: FHL Film 1655831 Dates: 1818 - 1901

WHITE, Elizabeth Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Dec 1832 Recorded in: Thornton le Moors, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1836235 Dates: 1810 - 1847

WHITE, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 7 Jun 1835 Recorded in: Thornton le Moors, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1836235 Dates: 1810 - 1847

WHITE, Williams Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Jun 1838 Recorded in: Thornton le Moors, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1836235 Dates: 1810 - 1847

WHITE, Martha Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 8 Aug 1839 Recorded in: Thornton le Moors, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert WHITE
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1836235 Dates: 1810 - 1847

Possibly not all of them? There's a 10 year gap 1822-1832.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Aug 2011 23:28

I see in 1841 there's an Ann Cowap, aged 3 living with them.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Aug 2011 23:32

I missed Mary 'cause it didn't have mother's name but she's on the 41 census.

WHITE, Mary Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 17 Jun 1827 Recorded in: Thornton le Moors, Cheshire, England
Father: Robert WHITE
Source: FHL Film 1836235 Dates: 1810 - 1847

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Christine

Christine Report 8 Aug 2011 14:29

Hi all
Sorry I havent responded........I lost complete access to my tree for some unknown reason but can now open it.
Yes all these are Robert and Marthas children but none show Marthas maiden name (CheshireBMD is not as up to date as others). I have assumed it is Cowap because her brother is living with her in 1951 and he is called Cowap.
I have found births for both Martha Cowap and Elizabeth Cowap around the right time but the marriage to Robert White def shows Elizabeth.
It may just be one of those things I will never know for sure.........
Thanks
Christine

Florence

Florence Report 8 Aug 2011 18:43

Hello Christine,

Have you seen the family on family search? ( Free to search)

A Ralph Cowap b 1750 marr to a Elizabeth Brock b 1768 marr in Tarporley cheshire 1791
and all the children listed mostly born Budworth cheshire.
All the childrens names seem to have the same names in Martha,s family.
Perhaps it is as they have already said that she had 2 names
Martha Elizabeth or Elizabeth Martha.
would they be her parents?
check it out!!

,,,,,,,,,,,children,,,,,,,,Mary ,( Martha b 1793 ) , Thomas, John, Elizabeth, Ann , William , Ralph,
Sarah , Frances ,Joseph , Jane .

Flo

Christine

Christine Report 9 Aug 2011 13:24

Hi Florence
Thanks for that. I had seen it but my Martha was def born in Ince so I hadnt looked further.
I will have a look and see if I can tie in the Ann living with them in 1841.
Thanks again
Christine