Genealogy Chat

hi
could someone do a look up for me either in kelys directors or electoral registers for owners of morgans sauseages in high street, digbeth, birmingham in 1900. need names so i can find them on census returns.

thanks

molly

Theres no electoral registers that can be looked up for 1900.

You could google for Kellys directory

an adddress serch for Morgans doesnt come up with any hits .

Looking on the 1901 for all Digbeth addresses find this one which is a strong possiblity.

79 AMISON, Stephen Head Widower M 61 1840 Beef & Pork Butcher
Longton
Staffordshire VIEW
79 AMISON, Thomas Son Single M 25 1876 Assistant Butcher
Dudley
Staffordshire VIEW
79 AMISON, Clara Daughter Single F 19 1882 Assistant Butcher
Dudley
Staffordshire VIEW
79 AMISON, Edith Daughter Single F 17 1884 Assistant Butcher
Dudley
Staffordshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2836 Folio:
158 Page:
14

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St Martin Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
42, Digbeth, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

High Street Digbeth doesnt exist as an address

another one!!
80 BEESLEY, Enos Head Married M 51 1850 Butcher
Honiton
Oxfordshire VIEW
80 BEESLEY, Ellen Wife Married F 51 1850
Banbury
Oxfordshire VIEW
80 LEESON, Ellen Daughter Married F 26 1875 Assistant Butcher
Banbury
Oxfordshire VIEW
80 BEESLEY, Edith Daughter Single F 22 1879 Assistant Butcher
Birmingham VIEW
80 BEESLEY, May Doris Daughter Single F 8 1893
Birmingham VIEW
80 WHEELDON, Esther Servant Single F 25 1876
Heage
Derbyshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2836 Folio:
158 Page:
14

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St Martin Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
43, Digbeth, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

Now this one looks right -note the surname!! :-D

MORGAN, John Head Married M 34 1867 Pork Butcher
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
2 MORGAN, Helen F Wife Married F 30 1871
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
2 MORGAN, John Son Single M 7 1894
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
2 MORGAN, Helen F Daughter Single F 1 1900
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
2 CUND, Lily Servant F F 24 1877 Serv Domestic
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
2 LEWIS, Elizabeth Servant F F 14 1887 Serv Domestic
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2837 Folio:
25 Page:
1

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St Martin Enumeration District:
46 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Martin Birmingham

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
110, 111, Digbeth, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

14 NIXON, Robert Head Married M 49 1852 Butcher
Birmingham VIEW
14 NIXON, Minnie G Wife Married F 31 1870
Birmingham VIEW
14 NIXON, Ethel M Daughter Single F 12 1889 School
Birmingham VIEW
14 CALE, George Nephew Single M 14 1887 Butchers Assistant
Evesham
Worcestershire VIEW
14 HOBBS, Arthur J Servant Single M 15 1886 Butchers Assistant
Birmingham VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2837 Folio:
26 Page:
3

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St Martin Enumeration District:
46 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Martins

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
137, Digbeth, Birmingham County:


So thats all the Butchers listed for Digbeth

Morgan doesnt come up on the 1911 census & the street search only goes to number 109 !!!

hi thanks for that

sorry not got used to having to look in'my threads' for replies. i did find the john morgan and got quite a bit of information about him from another site, trawled through census returns to see if there was a link, but nothing found yet

thanks for all your help.

molly

You could track them on Ancestry in The British Phone Books.

1911 Morgan family have moved

MORGAN, John Head Married
18 years M 44 1867 Ham And Bacon Curer Bham Warwickshire VIEW
MORGAN, Helena Francis Wife Married
18 years F 38 1873 Bham Warwickshire VIEW
MORGAN, John Son Single M 17 1894 Bham Warwickshire VIEW
MORGAN, Helena Frances Daughter Single F 11 1900 Bham Warwickshire VIEW
MORGAN, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Single F 9 1902 Bham Warwickshire VIEW
MORGAN, Winifred Hilda Daughter Single F 5 1906 Bham Warwickshire VIEW
ROGERS, Florence Mabel Housemaid Single F 23 1888 Domestic Nurse Northampton VIEW
TOMLINSON, Jenny Cook Single F 27 1884 Domestic Cook Wellington Salop VIEW
JONES, Lattie Amelia Housemaid Single F 23 1888 Domestic Housemaid Wordsley Worcestershire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17860 Reference:
RG14PN17860 RG78PN1091 RD383 SD1 ED37 SN30

Registration District:
Kings Norton Sub District:
Kings Norton Enumeration District:
37 Parish:
Kings Norton

Address:
Moorcroft Russell Road

hi thanks for that

he did move up in the world. russell road is still quite a posh road, but atho says kings norton (which is about 8 miles away) it is really just round the corner from where he was before.

thanks again

How long did the firm exist?

Birmingham Then & Now
Hockley Regents Row C1900 and Now phil 1263823450 ... Digbeth Morgans Sausages 1950's and the Manzil Restaurant Today phil 1263834649. Digbeth Morgan. ...

205004.homepagemodules.de/g7-Birmingham-Then-amp-Now....

Possible marriage:

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
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Doherty Helena Frances Birmingham 6d 210
Morgan John Birmingham 6d 210

John in 1891?

Name John Morgan
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Assistant
Occupation Pork Butcher Assistant
Address 8, Spiceal Street
District Birmingham, St Martin
Parish Birmingham

Possible for Helena

Name Helen Doherty
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Cashier
Address 55, Jamaica Row
District Birmingham, St Martin
Parish Birmingham
Administrative County Warwickshire
Birth Place Birmingham
Birth County Warwickshire

Administrative County Warwickshire
Birth Place Birmingham
Birth County Warwickshire

thanks for all that, yes i did manage to find morgans sausages and yes phil you are right they went out of existence in the 50s and manzills restaurant took over. actually ate in there myself on occasion.

was trying to find a link between morgans sausages/butchers and reg morgan but i could not find him as a brother or cousin.

trying to research for my elderly neighbour, on her dads birth cert it says reg morgan dad plumber, but he was not married to his mother. i obtained the mothers death cert and it says widow of reg morgan, plumber. but my neighbour and her cousin are convinced that reg morgan was wealthy and owned shops (they came up with morgans sausages) but as i said i could not find a link. they now tell me that he owned lots of shops in the balsall heath area of birmingham, and that he died on the pitch playing rugby. in their minds if you played rugby you were a better class of person than a footballer. not been able to find him tho. put his name into the igi and came up with a reg morgan dying 1923, as i know he was there in 1908 because his son was born and clara was a widow when she died in 1927. reg was 36, so would have been about fourteen years older than clara.

am going to pop to the library to see if i can see any notices or obituaries of a reg morgan 'popping off' on the rugby pitch.

thanks for all the work

molly