Genealogy Chat

i am getting but lost and or confused.

ill try my best to explain, what is the best way for me to find out things i cant find relatives in other trees,

i have most of the birth certificates for who im searching where doi go from there as i dont know when they died or who they married,

any help please

thanks

Hi Veronica

Best to start with what you know - work backwards through marriages, births etc.

If you are coming forwards - finding other descendants from a gr grandparent or something - it is not so easy. Censuses will help up until 1911 but between 1911 and now it can be a bit hit and miss unless you have specific information ...

Try posting a name / area / date etc of at least one of your people and see if anyone here can help with a bit more info - or be able to point you in the right direction.

Jill

thats the thing i know very little and didnt want to menton names as i have put names inother treads.

its i have found the correct birth certs but dont know where to go now.

Veronica, it's really hard to advise in a general way. If you are trying to find marriages 1837-about 1950 you are best to look on Freebmd, but I imagine you are aware of this site as you have all these birth records?
jan

I'm guessing that the people you are looking for are (or might be) still alive?

You could try asking for some specific help on the Find Living Relatives boards - but you're right to be careful about names of potentially living people ... it's not easy I'm afraid.

Jill

Give us one name and we can guide you to the marriage and death registrations then prehaps you can use that to guide yourself
Dont worry if you have asked before I dont care I,m happy to help again ...its not easy to find these things and people on here do get upset if you keep asking .....BUT its how they found it you often want to know

well i will give some names to show you where i am at.

my mum is jenny smith 1913. her brothers and sisters are,
annie smith 1894 married frederick chaplin.
william smith 1896 married alice theil
dorothy smith 1898 married howard price
charles ernest smith1901
john edward smith 1904
alice smith ????
nellie smith 1908
elsie smith 1910
lilian smith ????
jenny smith 1913

i have all of there birth certs apart from 2 with ????
and theones with the partners next too i have the marriage certs but the otheres i cant find anything about and have no one to ask, any help please

many thanks

Hmm- with the surname of Smith, you do have a problem!

Where were they all born please? And were they likely to have stayed in the same area? Do you have the older ones on 1901 and 1911 for identification purposes?

Hopefully someone will be able to make some suggestions.

looks like it could be Middlesex area..

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
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>>>Chaplin Frederick Smith Willesden 3a 633
Dibbs John C Sear Willesden 3a 633
Sear Elizabeth S Dibbs Willesden 3a 633
>>>Smith Annie Chaplin Willesden 3a 633




Nicky

The family in 1911....??

SMITH, George Head Married
17 years M 42 1869 Brick Layers Labrour Coughton Buzzard Herts VIEW
SMITH, Mary Wife Married F 41 1870 Steukley Bucks VIEW
SMITH, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Stukley Bucks VIEW
SMITH, William Son M 14 1897 Green Grocers Boy Holloway London VIEW
SMITH, Dorothy Daughter F 12 1899 School Willesden Middx VIEW
SMITH, Charles Son M 9 1902 Willesden Middx VIEW
SMITH, John Son M 7 1904 Willesden Middx VIEW
SMITH, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 Willesden Middx VIEW
SMITH, Nellie Daughter F 2 1909 Willesden Middx VIEW
SMITH, Elsie Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Willesden Middx VIEW
RUMBLE, Tommy Boarder Single M 39 1872 General Labrour London Wandsworth LD VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7038 Reference:
RG14PN7038 RG78PN346B RD129 SD1 ED58 SN317

Registration District:
Willesden Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
58 Parish:
Willesden




Nicky

veronica..Is this your family in 1911?




Nicky

hi sorry for long reply, yes thats my family in 1911. i have all them childrens birth certs, apart from alice who there are alot of alicesmiths born in willesden

The family in 1901..

SMITH, George Head Married M 31 1870 Bricklaye's Labourer
Leighton Buzd
Buckinghamshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary A Wife Married F 31 1870
Stewkley
Buckinghamshire VIEW
SMITH, Annie Daughter F 6 1895
Stewkley
Buckinghamshire VIEW
SMITH, William T Son M 4 1897
Holloway
London VIEW
SMITH, Dorothy M Daughter F 2 (2 YRS 6 MOS) 1899
Willesden
London VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1214 Folio:
72 Page:
7

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Willesden Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthew Willesden

Civil Parish:
Willesden Municipal Borough:
Address:
49, Redfern Road, Willesden County:
Middlesex


Nicky

so your not intreseted in tracing the family back then? , but are trying to find out who your mothers brothers and sisters married?.

Do you not have any Cousins? or their children, ? have you no family surnames to work with other than Smith?

With a name like Smith it could be like looking for a needle in a haystack, ands without buying countless marriage certs. that could prove to be the wrong ones i don`t really know how to advise.....

Do you live in the Willesden area? if so could you access marriage records at a local records office, at least if you could see the parish records you could check on address and fathers name and occupation to see if you had the correct people.



Nicky

george smith married a lady called Mary what is her maiden name? and when did they marry?

Exact dob started to be given in the GRO d.index in 1969.
If your mum's sibs lived that long, then you search for, say all Elsies with dob=1/9/1910 +/-2y (or whatever - people do get the year wrong, but not usually the birthday). I would be suspicious of, say, an Elsie Jones with the correct dob with a death being rego'ed in Brent in 1975 say, Would make me want to search for a Jones-Smith marr.

Even if you don't have an Ancestry sub, one can do a free search of the d.index specifying dob for deaths rego'ed 1989 +/- 20


If you don't have a sub, you'll only see partial info

Name Estimated Birth Year Date of Registration District County View Image Order Record
Elsie Jessie L Senior year info 1996 city London

You might see more info if you click on the shopping basket (like the RD is Southwark here).
(NB You can easily backout, assuming you don't want to pay Ancestry an extra 13 quid to place the order for you.)