Genealogy Chat

Really you can find all sorts of stuff in the OPRs.

SP once showed an entry the minister made showing how to switch from the Julian to Gregorian calendars

This is what happened when my gggg grandparents banns were called.
(The marginal M indicates they were afterwards married).

Source: OPR Rathen
1794
Aug 24 Lect'd Cor 8:1 -- end ?
Coll 4/9/-
M Wm Scott here, & Eliz'th Rainy in Lonmay procl'o pro p'mo 2ndo & 3tio
given to Jo Cumine 12/-/-



Re #ing kids, I've often seen this in the Durham bishop's transcripts.
(Their unindexed images are online via FS.)

DUR BTs - Kelloe (St Helen's - image 509 of 723)
BAPTISMS Solemnized in the Parish of Kelloe
in the County of Durham in the Year 1845
When Baptized; Child's Christian Name; Parents' Name; Abode; Quality, Trade or Profession; By whom the Ceremony was performed
November 16 [Entry] No 949; William; 2nd Son of William Benson & Isabella (late Douglas); Coxhoe Long Row; Pitman; W Skene Curate.


Just because the entry was pre-1855, or pre-1837 or whenever, one can't conclude that the entry must be a baptismal entry.
I've seen births recorded with no mention of baptisms.
I've seen entries in the DUR BTs where there's a list of births (with no baptisms mentioned) provided to the local CofE minister for recording where the provider was the local Society of Friends (i.e., quakers).
(Sorry, I've forgotten where - I'll make a note if I stumble across them again.)



Not that it's really anything to do with Moira's post, but in the DUR BTs for coastal parishes, one occassionally comes across some rather sad burials of, say, "Seaman wearing red socks" or "Sailor with brass buttons".

Hi Kath Even though it says Registration of Birth it will be a baptism as on closer inspection it has several children from the same family recorded on the same page and of course born in different years.
So they would all be baptised at the same time. I jsut find the entry intriguing.

Thanks Moira

I've just been googling and found that registration started in Scotland on 1st January 1855, so the record you have must be a baptism.

You could be right about the 7th son theory as I've heard this before.

Kath. x

Hi Jennifer Just read your reply. The A4 page is titled Registration of Birth
The photcopy I have is handwritten and not a typed copy of the original.

Regards Moira

Hi Kath This birth record is from the old parish records held on Scotlandspeople.In the times of large families in Scotland it was fairly common to name a child after one who had died. I have come across duplicate names of siblings in family trees with no mention of grandparents ever before.
What makes this interesting is the fact that George is a 7th son and perhaps his father James was also a 7th son. 7th sons according to folk lore had the gift of seeing into the future. (There is a saying he is the 7th son of a 7th son) So perhaps this was thought so special at the time it was worth recording.
I have never seen such an entry before and I was interested in other peoples thoughts on it.

Regards Moira

I think Kath is right and this is a baptism. I have quite a few which state that the child baptised was the lawful son or daughter.
I think it was up to the vicar doing the baptism how he recorded the entry. Perhaps the family wanted it recorded in this way.

Jennifer

Just thinking about this - and I have no idea whether it could be the case or not - but perhaps James Hume had two sons called George and one had died, so that could be the reason why the person recording the details has mentioned that George is the seventh son (just to differentiate between the two).

Is it a birth or a baptism as I thought registration didn't start in Scotland until 1855?

Kath. x

Well I know that Scottish certs have much more info on them English ones. Their marriage certs also include the mother's maiden name as well as father's name, death certs also include mother's maiden name

Printed this off from scotlandspeople.gov.uk This is my husband's family tree.

Where have you seen this? so we can have a look.

I have just discovered a registered birth for John Hume with his grandfather's name recorded on it.There are 9 other birth entries on the page showing as usual the parents names.
It is as follows- George, farm servant, and Helen Archibald his wife (the former seventh son of his father James Hume) had a lawful son born at Bewlie in this parish on the 13th day of July 1824 and named John.
Bewlie is in Roxburghshire, Scotland.
I have never seen a grandparents name on a birth certificate - any ideas why? I am interested to know what others think of this entry.