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Sarah-Lou
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17 Sep 2011 23:14 |
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Thanks very much to all for the input ... I will definitely order the 1919 death cert for Robert C. Blackman.
That IS the Gravesend 1911 census entry for the family, Maddie ... I have always been perplexed as to why, with Lizzie living in the home of her father, her children are shown as nephews and nieces to what is, without doubt, their grandfather, not uncle. The "Millin" listed is in fact William.
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17 Sep 2011 14:34 |
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It may be worth looking at the Commonwealth War Graves site for William b. 1898 to see if he was killed in WW1.
http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14
There is a W F Blackman there and the same man is listed in the Medal Rolls on Ancestry. Unfortunately his age is not given. Grave details also given here: http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=1666160
Blackman, W F
Cemetery: St. Sever Cemetery Extension Rouen
Country: France
Area: Seine-Maritime
Rank: Private
Official Number: 138837
Unit: 51st Bn. Machine Gun Corps (Infantry).
Force: Army
Nationality: British
Details:
4th November 1918. S. II. Y. 6.
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17 Sep 2011 14:33 |
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This is possible birth for the death that Maddie found, as is West Ham, even though age out:
Births Jun 1901
Blackman Robert Charles W. Ham 4a 258
whilst this is the Robert Charles Reynolds Chapman birth:
Births Jun 1903
BLACKMAN Robert Charles R Gravesend 2a 647
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17 Sep 2011 14:08 |
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is this a possibilty
BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BLACKMAN, Robert C
Registration District: Help West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 16
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 14
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17 Sep 2011 14:07 |
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john owen
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Civil Registration event: Death
Name: BLACKMAN, John Owen L
Registration District: Help Waltham Forest
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1971
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth: 4 June 1904
Volume No: 5E
Page No: 972
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17 Sep 2011 13:53 |
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could this be robert c in 1911
MOWLE, Reynold W Head Widower M 69 1842 Ticket Collector Kent Dover VIEW
BLACKMAN, Lizzie E Daughter Married
10 years F 38 1873 Kent Canderbury VIEW
BLACKMAN, Millin Nephew M 14 1897 School Kent Abbey Wood VIEW
BLACKMAN, Robert C Nephew M 8 1903 School Kent Greavesend VIEW
BLACKMAN, John O Nephew M 6 1905 School Kent Greavesend VIEW
BLACKMAN, Beatrice K Niece F 4 1907 Kent Greavesend VIEW
BLACKMAN, Harry G L Nephew M 1 1910 Essex Barking VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3814 Reference:
RG14PN3814 RG78PN145 RD44 SD1 ED1 SN135
Registration District:
Gravesend Sub District:
Gravesend Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Gravesend
Address:
12 High Street Gravesend County:
Kent
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17 Sep 2011 13:38 |
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1901 census - address transcription
Address: 11, Grove Road, Plumstead
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233 FISH, William Head Married M 30 1871 Stoker At ? Fires
Ringsfield
Suffolk VIEW
233 FISH, Mary A Wife Married F 30 1871
Westhall
Suffolk VIEW
233 FISH, Alfred W Son M 8 1893
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
233 FISH, Frederick G Son M 6 1895
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
233 FISH, Edith Daughter F 4 1897
Plumstead
Kent VIEW
233 FISH, Ellen Daughter F 3 1898
Abbey Wood
Kent VIEW
233 FISH, William Son M 1 1900
Abbey Wood
Kent VIEW
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234 DUFF, Mungo Head Married M 27 1874 Carpenter House
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234 DUFF, Robina Wife Married F 32 1869
Scotland VIEW
234 DUFF, Christina Daughter F 1 1900
Dartford
Kent VIEW
234 CALDWELL, James Boarder Single M 23 1878 Carpenter House
Scotland VIEW
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It is not easy searching by address on ancestry (well I cant anyway) Find my past has an address search
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17 Sep 2011 13:37 |
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Oops - correction - Robert Charles Reynolds Blackman was last seen in the 1911 census :-S
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Sarah-Lou
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17 Sep 2011 13:35 |
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Hi - anyone know how to pin-point an address when searching the 1901 census?
My grandfather's elder half-brother William Frederick Davis Denton's birth cert shows he was born at 11 Grove Road, Plumstead, Kent on 18th Jan 1898 - reg'd by father William Denton, same address; mother Lizzie Denton formerly Mowle (her full name was Lizzie Emmeline Mowle).
However, Wm Jr. was next found as William Davis on the 1901 census in Gravesend, Kent, with mum shown as "Elizabeth Davis" and "widow" ... but there is no proof she ever married a William Denton (OR Davis!) ... marrying my g-grandfather Robert James Reeves Blackman in Dec 1901 as Lizzie Mowle, SPINSTER! William is shown in the 1911 as William Blackman and this is the last I can find of him.
Mum always thought my grandad Harry Blackman's 'oldest' brother was John "Jack" Owen Laws Blackman, b. 1904, but there was actually ANOTHER older brother, Robert Charles Reynolds Blackman, b. 1903 - he also is last seen in the 1901 census.
So - 2 mysterious great uncles to find out about! Am hoping that being able to look at who was living at 11 Grove Road, Plumstead in 1901 will give me at least one clue (I'm a member of Ancestry, so can access the census thru there) ... but how do I find that address??!
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