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Hi all,
I'm still new to this and I would appreciate any help or advice anyone has to share with me as I'm very eager to research my family tree.

Here is what I know so far by talking to relatives and searching the 1901 census.

I know that my relatives lived in Broadwell lane end and attended St John's parish in Coleford at the time of the 1901 census and that my relatives information are as follows...

Lilly M Morgan aged 11 born in Merthyr
David J Morgan aged 9 born in Merthyr
Willie J Morgan aged 7 born in Merthyr
Charles E Morgan aged 6 born in West Dean
Tudor Garfield Morgan aged 4 born in West Dean
Imer Morgan (This could be Ingomar?) aged 3 born in West Dean
Thomas Morgan aged 1 born in West Dean.

It also said that they lived with their mother Elizabeth Ann, but I can't find her surname. She was 30 at the time and was born in Merthyr .It also showed that they lived with their father George Morgan and he was 40 at the time and he was a general haulier born in West Dean.

Then it showed that they all lived with the head of the house George Morgan who was 77 at the time and that he was a colliery proprietor and was a widow. He was born in West Dean. I think he had something to do with Forest Red Ash Colliery (maybe I'm wrong about the name of it?)

If anyone has any information regarding any of the people above I would be very very grateful! Such as Elizabeth Anne's maiden name. The date of her marriage, etc. If anyone knows how I could gather this information myself please let me know. I feel I'm at a dead end and don't know what to do next!

Thank you
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this is the family in 1911 - it looks as though Elizabeth (the mother) has died and George has re-married)


1911

MORGAN, George A Head Married M 51 1860 Collier Hewer West Dear Glos VIEW
MORGAN, Daiciy A Wife Married
3 years F 30 1881 Woolwich VIEW
MORGAN, Lily Daughter Single F 21 1890 Llangenier Glam VIEW
MORGAN JUN, George Son Single M 19 1892 Collier Hewer Llangenier Glam VIEW
MORGAN, William Son Single M 17 1894 Collier Hewer Llangenier Glam VIEW
MORGAN, Charles Son Single M 16 1895 Collier Hewer West Dear Glos VIEW
MORGAN, Indor Son Single M 15 1896 West Dear Glos VIEW (this is Tudor)
MORGAN, Ingoma Son Single M 13 1898 School West Dear Glos VIEW
MORGAN, Victor Son M 9 1902 West Dear Glos VIEW
MORGAN, Thomas Son M 7 1904 West Dear Glos VIEW
MORGAN, Blodwen Daughter F 4 1907 Coleford Newland Glos VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
32377 Reference:
RG14PN32377 RG78PN1853B RD589 SD4 ED49 SN122

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Rhondda Enumeration District:
49 Parish:
Rhondda

Address:
107 Trealaw Road Trealaw Rhondda County:
Glamorganshire

Any one of the childrens birth certs wil give Elizabeth's maiden name. Look on FreeBMD for some of the unusual christian names ie Indor and Ingoma

Just posting the 1901 so its lays it all out !

1901 census
Name: George Morgan
Age in 1901: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wid Head (Widow)
Gender: Male
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: West Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: Coleford St John
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Broadwell lane End
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 4922
Folio: 40
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
George Morgan 77 occ colliery propriator
George Morgan 40 occ general haulier -own account
E A Morgan 30 b merthyr
Lilly M Morgan 11 b merthyr
David J Morgan 9 b merthyr
Willie J Morgan 7 b merthyr
Charles E Morgan 6 b west dean
Tudor G Morgan 4 b west dean
Ingomar Morgan 3 b west dean
Thomas Morgan 1 b west dean



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4922; Folio: 40; Page: 9.

death
Name: Tudor G Morgan
Birth Date: abt 1898
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 562

says born West Dean but there's no birth for Gloucestershire

??
Name: Ingomar Morgan
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1898
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 23

Name: Tudor Garfield Morgan
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 17

AHHH Monmouth reg district covered West Dean at that time

Name: Elizabeth Ann Morgan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1907
Age at Death: 36
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 15

There is this marriage on freebmds

George Morgan married 1889 June qt Monmouth to possibly Eliza Ann Powell.
But as suggested a child's birth cert will confirm her maiden name

For full details of a marriage you could either buy the marriage certificate, or look up the marriage in the parish records (in the County Records Office).
The marriage certificate should give both parties full names, age, occupation, address, fathers names and occupations, and witnesses. For certificates (birth, marriage, death) you can apply at the GRO on-line at www.gro.gov.uk

If you look at freebmd.org.uk you'll see the indexed registrations of births, marriages and deaths....note the registrations go by yearly quarter, so if someone was born in late 1890 their birth may not have been registered until early 1891. The District, Volume and Page is helpful when ordering certificates.

As Shirley mentioned above, any one of the children's birth certificates would give you the names of the parents including the mother's maiden name.

K

P.S.
You might live in the Forest of Dean area, and/or be familiar with it already, but if not you might find this site interesting .... www.sungreen.co.uk

I usually live in the desert, but am currently at home in the UK - home being approximately 13 miles from Coleford and Broadwell - if I can be of any help to you, ie local knowledge, place names etc..

K

Thank you everyone for your help!! I will look into things a bit further as you've suggested! I may need to ask for more advice as time goes on. Thank you xxxx

Thank you everyone for your help!! I will look into things a bit further as you've suggested! I may need to ask for more advice as time goes on. Thank you xxxx

Thank you everyone for your help!! I will look into things a bit further as you've suggested! I may need to ask for more advice as time goes on. Thank you xxxx

Thank you everyone for your help!! I will look into things a bit further as you've suggested! I may need to ask for more advice as time goes on. Thank you xxxx