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At borne/olde English

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+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Nov 2011 22:45

There are a number of non conformist records on Ancestry, and ones on www.bmdregisters.co.uk. You could try looking on there.

From a quick search, there doesn't appear to be anything on Ancestry, so you could try bmdregisters.co.uk . It is a pay to view or subscription site, but you can search for free. RG4 seems to include the Dr William's Library.

Edit - there seems to be several possibles on there, costing about £2.50 to view the image.

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 21:56

...............seems it meant they were protestant non conformists then.

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 21:52

I have been quite lucky recently and have been in contact with a member of the Rivett family who is now in Canada, found him through a letter I found at my uncles house after he died recently. It had been written over 30 years ago to my grandad and never answered.

He has sent me copies of some documents relating to the said William Rivett. One of which is a birth record from 1811. Now I understood that there were no such things before 1837 but it appears to have been signed by persons present at the birth and registered at Dr Williams's library Redcross Street Cripplegate London

any ideas?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Nov 2011 21:12

LOL - not really. My previous board name was a rather boring DET, and someone suggested the current one. Well, it was either that or DefEcTive!!. ;-)

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 21:05

That's great thanks

you really are a DetEcTive !

Jan

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Nov 2011 18:32

The 'borne' could probably be a miss-transcription of 'home' especially if the gap at the bottom of the h curled under slightly. Similarly, if the pen skipped or the ink had faded, the m could be read as r n.

So yes, if William was the Landlord, he was 'at home'.

Edit - Found the transcript, which does say 'at home'.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/images.jsp?doc=184201310147

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 18:16

It's right in the City of London, near the Tower of London and I think he was the landlord of the pub.

I think you are right, it just means he was there, working.

thanks for trying

Jan

mgnv

mgnv Report 2 Nov 2011 18:13

It sounds to me more like he was at work that day. He might have lived over the bar, but it sounds to me like he's drawing some distinction between his home and his workplace, but what do I know?

Janet

Janet Report 2 Nov 2011 17:30


Old Bailey on line 1843 WILLIAM RIVETT I keep the Ship tap, in Water-lane. I was at borne on boxing-day, the 27th of December—I have no recollection of seeing the prisoner there that night from five till twelve o'clock—I knew him before, and if he had been there so long a time that night playing at cards and drinking, I should have known it.

I presume it is just an old fashioned way of saying at home, but do you know if it has a meaning which is anything more than that ?

Thanks

Jan