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If I have an IGI entry, can I get information or how/where can I get information for this entry? Sorry what I mean is will it give me more information other than where and when married? Such as, were they of this parish, witness' , etc?
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The key bit of info here is the film # (if someone has sent you full details of an old entry, it used to be called the source #). On the FS site, do a search by film # in the FH Library Catalog.
Here's the original look up at:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE
in the collection
England, Lancashire – Cheshire – Yorkshire Parish Registers, 1603-1992
but, in spite of the title, it's really Greater Manchester.
Name:Arthur Gretton Reeson
Event:Marriage
Event Date:02 Apr 1887
Event Place:Salford (St Phillip), Lancashire, England
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Single
Father:William Reeson
Spouse:Edderline Troop
Spouse's Marital Status:Single
Spouse's Father:Thomas Foster Troop
Film Number:1408661
Digital Folder Number:004470522
Image Number:00494
Here's the FHL Catalogue now:
Film or fiche number
1408661
Title Parish registers for St. Phillip's Church, Salford, 1826-1957
Authors Church of England. St. Philip's Church (Salford, Lancashire) (Main Author)
Manchester Archives Central Library (Repository)
Manchester Public Libraries (Manchester, England) (Repository)
Notes England, Lancashire – Cheshire – Yorkshire Parish Registers are available online, click here.
Microfilm of original records at the Manchester Public Library (1960), and the Manchester Archives Central Library in Manchester, England.
The parish was also known as the district parish of St. Philip, Salford, Manchester.
Note Location Film
Baptisms, 1826-1914. Marriages, 1838-January 1866. FHL BRITISH Film 1408660
Marriages, December 1865-1923. (dates on item 5 title board not correct) FHL BRITISH Film 1408661
Marriages, April 1911-1935. Burials, 1834-1888. Banns of marriages, 1869-1957. FHL BRITISH Film 1408727 Items 1 - 7
Baptisms, 1826-1848. Burials, 1834-1888 (only 8 burials between 1867 and 1888). (another filming) FHL BRITISH Film 506449
Actually, for this collection, I can just click on the image link,and see the image online, but assuming I couldn't, I could either go o the archive in Manchester, or rent a film at my local LDS FHCentre, and view it there.
One can also do place searches, and so find out which archive held this Salford record, and which film # I needed to order if I lived, say, 7000 miles from Manchester.
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Thank you, So, I presume when I rent the film from my local centre I will get more information than a couple of names and a date of a marriage?
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It depends when the event took place. Prior to the 'Roses Act' in 1813(?) there'd probably be only a line in the register OR perhaps X and Y, (spinster/Bachelor) of (parish) married by licence/banns with consent of friends and the signatures of 2 witnesses. Their fathers wouldn't be mentioned.
After 1837, when civil registration was brought in, they swapped over to the forms which current marriages are recorded on- occupation, address, age, father and father's occupation.
If you wanted to see examples, have a dig around on cityark.medway.gov.uk
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When I found an 1811 marriage entry on IGI which could have possibly been my OH's 3x gt grandparents....I googled to find the nearest library that held the parish records and emailed them for help.
The library staff very kindly emailed me back and confirmed the marriage including the church and the names of witnesses.
Although my OH's 3x gt grandfather was stated to be of the parish in Suffolk...he was infact from Cheshire...he was though serving with the Royal Horse Artilliary who were in barracks there at the time.
I have always found libraries extremely helpful.
Linda
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If you follow Linda's advice, ask them to check if either of the witness' names appear on adjacent marrs. Often one, or both, of the witnesses were professional witnesses, and appear on many of the adjacent m.certs.
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Thank you to all for this useful advice. On researching an ancestor yesterday online I was able to view from another website the origional baptism, which was helpful, the bmdregisters.co.uk.
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I have been using Family Search for quite a while now and never realised you can view the images form the origianl reocrds so thanks, mgnv, for the tip, I've found it very useful.
I've plenty of ancestors in Manchester and there's a lot of images online but the easiest way I've found is go to https://www.familysearch.org/ and enter my seach criteria. In the list of results for christenings or marriages a camera icon is shown if an image is available so I click the persons name then on the next page click on view image.
However I have found by using the 'browse' method, as suggested by mgnv above, that I have found images where FamiySearch results said there wasn't any, and also by just browsing the registers I've found christenings for chidren I hadn't found because they were born and died between censuses.
Thanks again mgnv.
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Ken2 - you're welcome.
Maybe you know already, but the local index sometimes has info that's difft from the GRO index
Some local indexes are online via http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
In particular:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
and the parts of historic Lancs that are now elsewhere
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/
There's also transcriptions of likely interest to you via:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html
Your strategy works well when the collection is indexed, but FS don't tell you how complete their coverage is.
(Unlike FreeBMD, where one can easily find which quarters fall short of ">99%" - the earliest are:
Births Dec 1918 (98%)
Marriages Sep 1920 (95%)
Deaths Dec 1844 (99%) )
There are some collections where FS tell you there's no indexing, e.g.:
England, Cornwall Parish Registers, 1538-2010 *27 Oct 2011Browse Images
England, Diocese of Durham Bishops' Transcripts ca., 1700-1900 24 Aug 2011Browse Images
England, Lancashire, Oldham Cemetery Registers, 1797-2004 *1 Nov 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Archdeacon's Transcripts, 1600-1812 18 Jan 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-194 18 Apr 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Marriage Bonds, 1557-1915 18 Jan 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Monumental Inscriptions, 1600-1900's 18 Jan 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Non-conformist Records, 1613-1901 18 Jan 2011Browse Images
England, Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 *5 Nov 2011Browse Images
Some interesting additions in the past fortnight - *-ed entries
One problem with this is you need to know which parish to look in.
Here's my ex's grandad in 1901 from Ancestry:
William Benson 56 Coxlwe, Durham, England Head
So where is Coxlwe? I've never heard of it - well, seeing as it's an Ancestry transcription, the first step is to check the image, and find out it's really Coxhoe.
OK so far, but Coxhoe wasn't a parish in 1845, so where do I look? Lewis (1848) is the answer:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445
where I find:
COXHOE, a township, in the parish of Kelloe etc.
and there's an image in the DUR BTs for his baptism (my transcription):
DUR BTs - Kelloe (St Helen's - image 509 of 723)
BAPTISMS Solemnized in the Parish of Kelloe
in the County of Durham in the Year 1845
When Baptized; Child's Christian Name; Parents' Name; Abode; Quality, Trade or Profession; By whom the Ceremony was performed
November 16 [Entry] No 949; William; 2nd Son of William Benson & Isabella (late Douglas); Coxhoe Long Row; Pitman; W Skene Curate.
Barbara - apologies for hijacking your thread somewhat.
However, you will see that after 1812ish, when they start using the preprinted baptismal regos, all cols will usually be filled out. This doesn't prevent the vicar from adding stuff - sometimes the dob is in the margin.
Here we know Wm was the 2nd son, and also his mum's Maiden Surname was Douglas - one's more likely to see extras in the north, esp the NE.
NB By extra above, I meant extra cf the usual entry. Certainly a dob and Mum's MS would appear in the IGI. However, you couldn't tell from the IGI entry that Wm Benson would have generated whether the parents were married - if not, the original entry would say.
In Scotland, the entry often would say that they were married - here's my transcription for my ggg gran's baptism:
Rathen 1794 Dec'r 25th
William Scott in Spillarsford had a dau'r
by his wife Elis'th Rainie bep't named Elisa'th
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I have never seen the films from the IGI, but I do have a baptisms CD for an area in Wiltshire - transcribed from the Parish Record of course. On a lot of the entries it gives the occupation of the father. Most of the entries pre-date the censuses, so this is very useful. Presumably the IGI originals would include any extra information too.
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