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I’m trying to find info about my GG/F Daniel Smith, unfortunately I have very little to go on. This is all I know:-
Daniel is shown on my Grandfathers (James Peter Smith) marriage certificate dated 16/6/1917 as being deceased, however, his rank/profession is shown as RSM, 6th RHA. I believe that 6th RHA refers to the 6th Brigade RHA which was formed in 1901 in India and comprised B and C batteries. 6 RHA was posted back to Ipswich in 1902 and then to Woolwich also in 1902. 6 RHA was re-designated as 2 RHA in 1906.
My Grandfather was born in 1891 but I don’t know where. I assume Daniel was already in the army in 1891.
I have no info about Daniel’s date or place of birth or when/where or who he married.
I have trawled the internet but can find no info about him and very little about 6th RHA.
I realise its like looking for a needle in a haystack but can anybody out there please help.

Have you checked the CWGC site to see if he is shown as a casualty

Where did John Peter marry ?

is this a possibility on the 1911 census
SMITH, Jane Head Widow F 50 1861 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Sophia J Daughter Single F 25 1886 Tailoress-Vest-Maker Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Mary Daughter Single F 23 1888 Elementary School Teacher Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, James Edward Son Single M 21 1890 House-Painter And Decorator Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, John Peter Son Single M 20 1891 Law-Clerk Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Arthur Son M 14 1897 At School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22582 Reference:
RG14PN22582 RG78PN1326 RD455 SD9 ED30 SN292

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
West Derby Western Enumeration District:
30 Parish:
West Derby

Address:
133 Leopold Road Liverpool County:
Lancashire


NO discount that one !!

1901
SMITH, James Head Married M 47 1854 Housekeeper
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Jane Wife Married F 38 1863
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Sophia Daughter Single F 15 1886 Tailoress
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Mary Daughter Single F 13 1888
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, James Son Single M 11 1890
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, John Son Single M 10 1891
Liverpool VIEW
SMITH, Arthur Son Single M 4 1897
Liverpool VIEW
Piece:
3495 Folio:
30 Page:
8 Registration District:
West Derby

Civil Parish:
West Derby Municipal Borough:
Address:
77, Mount Vernon Road, West Derby County:
Lancashire

Thanks for your reply Shirley, I have checked CWGC but no result.
My Grandfather James Peter Smith was married to Rose Violet Turnage 16/6/1917 at Rochford, Essex

What is the occupation of James on the 1917 marriage cert ?

Any witnesses that might be related ?

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Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Smith James Peter Sculcoates 9d 236

1911 - I think the name of father rules it out

SMITH, John George Head Married
24 years M 48 1863 Dock Side Labourer Hull Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary Ann Wife Married F 55 1856 Burton Constable Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, James Peter Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer General Hull Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28693 Reference:
RG14PN28693 RG78PN1649 RD521 SD7 ED6 SN23

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
East Sculcoates Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Sculcoates

Address:
1 Bessemer Terrace Lorne St Hull

Maybe something on this link will help with where to look for information on Daniel..?

http://www.firepower.org.uk/research/to_the_end_of_world_war_1.asp

Gwyn

Hi Glitterbaby,
On 1917 marriage cert James Peter Smith is shown as being 27 years old, bachelor, Driver at the School of Gunnery, shoeburyness (steward merchant service) his address is School of Gunnery Shoeburyness. Witnesses A. S. Lilly and A. Potter. The witness names mean nothing to me!
I have searched "Ancestry .co.uk" extensively for definate info on Daniel Smith but nothing I can verify in 1891, 1901 or 1911 census returns. I suspect that he may have been in the army and serving overseas in 1891 and 1901 and may well have been deceased by 1911, I just don't know.
If I could find records of 6 RHA postings 1902 - 1906 it would be helpful in identifying where he was serving.
If he reached the rank of RSM (Regimental Sergeant Major) he must have served for a long time in the army, I would expect 20 years +

Have you tried the National Archives for Daniels' Army record.

If he came out on a pension then his records may still be there. If he died in Service though I think his record may no longer exist.