Genealogy Chat

Are there passenger records (anywhere) which would show families leaving Ireland and them entering Scotland.

Trying to pin point when my Irish ancestors arrived.

Many thanks
Debra

Dont think so Debra..............it was just a hop across the Irish Sea. Most were accounted for on the census as being of Irish Origin, hence the approx migration figures. Around the time of the potato famine 1841 there was a huge exodus into Scotland, a lot of the Irish settling on the West coast where they disembarked, a lot of them in a pretty poor state by all accounts.

Annx

Thanks Ann

Problem I cant't find them in Ireland and then they don't appear in the UK Census until 1861 but record birth dates of the 1850s and earlier in English & Scottish counties but can't find any birth records - the brick walls continue!

Do you have the 1861 details?

Ann

This is Frank Conmy (or variation) b c1826 Ireland Co Sligo

Married at the Catholic Chapel Everingham Pocklington
17 April 1852
Frank Conby aged 26 yrs Bachelor, Labourer, address Pocklington. Father John Conby Farmer
Catherine Ennegan (I Think) aged 24 yrs Spinster, no profession, address Pocklington. Father Thomas Ennegan (?) Farmer.
Witnesses
Anne Agnes Carty
Ann Kerry
1861 - address St Peter's Willow Walmgate York, widower - Labourer (on ancestry as Conway)
Marriages Dec 1863 Allen Bridget to Conmay Frank York 9d 122
1871 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York (Conmay, Find My Past) - General Dealer
1881 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York - Licencesd Hawker
1886 - Occupation, Hawker (Taken from son Frank's marriage cert)
1891 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York (Parliamentary District) Thirsk & Malton - Licencesd Hawker
Death Sep 1897 Conmy Frank aged 78 Pocklington 9d 61

This is Frank b c 1856 Malton Yorks one of the sons

1861 address St Peter's Willow Walmgate York - scholar
Marriages Dec 1876 Boyne Catherine to Convey Francis York 9d 117
Marriage Mar 1886 CONMY Frank York 9d 87 - described as widower on Marriage cert
1891 address 6 Towlers Buildings York - Bricklayer's Labourer
1901 address London Street, Pocklington Nr York - Bricklayer's Labourer
1911 address 13 St Margarets Terrace York - Bricklayer's Labourer
On the 1911, it states that Margaret and Frank have been married for 30 years.
There were 15 children born to this couple, nine living and six having died all children born England, Margaret says her birth was "At Sea"

Frank 55
Margaret 51
Francis 29
Patrick 24
Mary 19
James 14
Robert 9
Thomas 4 (Grandchild)

There are three other children listed then crossed out as "not at home"

Thomas 27
John 25 (widower for under 1 year)
Arthur 22
Details of Grandchild Thomas - Birth cert shows mother to be Catherine
Births Mar 1907 Conmy Thomas York 9d 6
1911 address 13 St Margarets Terrace York living with Grandparents.
Thomas was brought up by Mary Beatrice as her own.
Thomas Conmy at 119 Crombie Avenue Died 5.7.1976 aged 69 York Evening Press 6.7.1976 p.2
Death Sep Qtr 1976 York 2 2538

Deaths Jun 1926 Conmy Francis age 70 York 9d 26

None of the birth are recorded in England??

Can't find birth records for

Frank 1856 (Malton) or his brother Thomas 1852 (Ireland or Pocklington)

or

Frank 1882 (Market Weighton) son of Frank 1856

Strange one...........had no luck either......it maybe they simply they did not register them as before 1875 there was no penalty in place.

Thanks for trying.

Debra

Debra, if born in Ireland, civil registration for births began in 1864.

You could try posting (free) in rootsweb mailing lists and in rootschat to see if anyone can help. And I shall bring forward for you a useful tips thread for Irish research.

Debra, there are alot of Conmy Baptisms in Sligo including one for a Thomas in 1853 Sligo, but unfortunaly i do not have credit at the moment to see it. Sorry.
Regards,
Betty.

Joy & Clover thank you for the suggestions.