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I am searching without luck for an ancestor and have even posted on the find ancestors .At moment I am trying a different track and am looking at a Ben Cention aged 1 who in 1841 is living with James Jones and family in Gloucestershire,However I can find no trace of this child anywhere else either in further census' or birth records so was wondering if name could have been misheard by enumerator any ideas gratefully received :-)

They were getting fancy!!
Births Dec 1839
Jones Vincension Chepstow 26 61

Maureen

I am not sure if it IS Ben Cention. The B is nothing like the B of Bellamy on the opposite page and cention does not begin with a capital letter, as do all the other surnames. Also, the age is in the female column.

Having said that, I can't make it out to be anything else!

Have you found the Jones family in 1851 to see if there is a possible child on that?

To confirm the birth Maureen posted - the family in 1851:

1851 Wales Census
about Henry Jones
Name: Henry Jones
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Jones
Mother's Name: Mary Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Wollaston, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Woolaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Upper Hamlet
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Shire
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Piece: 2443
Folio: 492
Page Number: 14
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
James Jones 53
Mary Jones 46
James Jones 27
Daniel Jones 23
Sarah Jones 21
Frances Jones 19
John Jones 17
William Jones 15
Henry Jones 13
Vensension Jones 11
Emma Jones 7
Harrit Jones 3

Looking at the original of that 41 census I think it says Vencention.

Lol no wonder I couldnot find a Ben Cention as it was actually Vencention
Thanks for your help but what a strange name

according to the 1851 census Vensension is a female .listed as daughter.

Oh yes, hadn't noticed that, Shirley, she's female in 1841 too!

Strange she doesn't show again after the 1851,

Think her dad may have died and elder bros married as find some of them on the 1861. not seeing her again , she must have been known as a different name

I googled Vensension to see if I could find out what it meant, and found this entry ..... the question wasn't asked by you by any mischance was it?


http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=12126


Henry Jones b1837 (General)

by awoodman, Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 22:30 (1360 days ago)

I am struggling to find out more about Henry's family and I was wondering if anybody might be able to help me. According to my research he married a Amelia Blanch at Parkend in 1860 and on the marriage certificate it states the Groom's father as a James. I then found a baptism certificate listing the parents of Henry as a James and a Mary (30/12/1837). However, I cannot find any more and I cannot find the family on a census. I have found a Henry with parents William and Mary and a sister Hannah but I can't find any more than this. If anyone can give me any help I would be really grateful.

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Reply:-

Henry JONES b1837 Woolaston area - Prior Thread

by slowhands @, proud of his ancient Dean Forest roots, Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 23:02 (1360 days ago) @ awoodman

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=11851

just to save duplication of some effort

Year: 1837
Month: Dec
Day: 30
Parents Surname: JONES
Child Forenames: Henry
Father's Forenames: James
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Woolastome
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating Minister: C Bryan
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/4
Page No: 80
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston


Year: 1839
Month: Dec
Day: 1
Parents Surname: JONES
Child Forenames: Vincentia[?]
Father's Forenames: James
Mother's Forenames: Mary
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating Minister: C Bryan
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: daughter of
Notes:
Register Reference: P376 IN 1/4
Page No: 86
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston



(then followed the 1841, 1851, and 1861 censuses)




sylvia

from that, it looks as thought the vicar thought her name was Vincentia


and googling that, shows Wikipedia


Vincentia may mean ...................

Places ..............
Vincentia, New South Wales, town in Australia
Vicenza, city in northern Italy

Saints ..................
Vincenza Gerosa (1784–1847), Italian saint, Feast Day on June 28
Saint Vincenca (also spelled Vicenca, Vincenca, Vincent), 3rd century Roman martyr, and patron saint of Croatian town Blato, Korcula, since 1795. Her Feast Day is on April 28

Organisms ...............
Vincentia (genus), a genus of fishes
Vincentia, junior synonym of the plant genus Grewia



:-) :-) :-)



sylvia

Here's the family in 1861 ...... Emma is the eldest child still at home

1861 Census

Name: James Jones
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Woollaston
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Lydney

James Jones 67 Ag Lab
Mary Jones 57
Emma Jones 18 Servant
Harriett Jones 14
Bessy Jones 2 Grandchild b.ca 1859, Woollaston

Address:- High Woollaston



Like Shirley, I cannot find Vensension anywhere ............... I've tried searching on christian name only, using both Vensension and Vincentia. I've also tries Vin* and Ven* Jones




sylvia

Thankyou all very much for your replies. It was my daughter who had posted on the forest website as we have both been doing the family tree. I had come to the conclusion that Ben Cention was indeed Vencension or however her name was spelt but have then lost trace of her. Very difficult to trace this side of my family. Jones was the grandmother on my father's side but thankyou all for your help