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Look here for details of Dewsbury Workhouse:-
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Dewsbury/
It appears that very few records survive from this workhouse. Those that do survive can be found here:-
West Yorkshire Archive Service — Kirklees, Central Library, Princess Alexandra Walk, Huddersfield, HD1 2SU.
Is this your g. grandmother in 1901 census:-
BAINES, William Head Married M 39 1862 Brussels Carpet Weaver Dudley Worcestershire
BAINES, Lucy Wife Married F 39 1862 Sheffield Yorkshire
BAINES, Margret Daughter Single F 19 1882 Rag Stricker
Dewsbury Yorkshire
BAINES, Louisa Daughter Single F 14 1887 Cotton Spinner
Dewsbury Yorkshire
BAINES, James Wm Son Single M 12 1889 Dewsbury Yorkshire
BAINES, Michael Son Single M 8 1893 Dewsbury Yorkshire
HOWE, Mary Ann Lodger Widow F 63 1838 Huddersfield Yorkshire <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
EARLY, Mary Ann Visitor Married F 27 1874 Todmorden Lancashire
EARLY, Mary Visitor Single F 1 1900 Dewsbury Yorkshire
Address:
10, Hanover Square, Dewsbury
Piece: 4267
Folio: 108
Page: 7
Registration District: Dewsbury
Kath. x
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I might be wrong but cann't find a workhouse Dewsbury Do you have any more details on her ;-)
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how do you findg grand mar in dewsbury workhousein 1902her name mary ann howe she was 63 1n 1901 any history lorriean
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Yes very true
I have been to Ripon they have a section of the old workhouse as a museam the rest has been taken over by socail services
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In fact, I was born in a workhouse.
Hammersmith Hospital, where I was born in 1955 had, I found out recently, been built as a workhouse and later converted to a hospital. It seems that many hospitals have their origins as workhouses.
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Very interesting thankyou Paul very informative ;-)
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The exact definitions of terms such as 'lunatic', 'imbecile', 'idiot' and 'feeble-minded' are extremely problematic.
According to the 1881 Census Report; No accurate line of demarcation can be drawn between the several conditions indicated by these terms. Speaking generally, however, the term idiot is applied in popular usage simply to those who suffer from congenital mental deficiency, and the term imbecile to persons who have fallen in later life into a state of chronic dementia. But it is certain that neither this nor any other definite distinction between the terms was rigorously observed in the schedules, and consequently no attempt has been made by us to separate imbeciles from idiots. The term lunatic also is used with some vagueness, and probably some persons suffering from congenital idiocy, and many more suffering from dementia, were returned under this name.
Considering that householders, who could be illiterate, were being asked to give information about medical disabilities without any definition of the terms being used the answers should be treated with caution. Also they would be unwilling to admit that anyone in the family had medical disabilities.
When ‘feeble-minded’ was substituted for ‘idiot’ in the 1901 census the number of persons recorded with mental disability rose markedly, because, apparently the former term was considered much less derogatory than the latter.
Some terms do have a formal definition in the UK although they are no longer used:
Term Idiot IQ 0 to 25 Modern term Severe learning disability
Imbecile 25 to 50 Moderate learning disability
Feeble minded (moron) 50 to 70 Mild learning disability
Those with an IQ of less than 50 usually need care throughout life and are unlikely to educable in the formal sense
An old issue of Family Tree Magazine has an article about hospitals for the mentally ill. It gives the following definitions in use until the beginning of the C20th:
imbecile - 'mental age of an infant'
idiot - 'natural fool from birth'
lunatic - 'sometimes of good and sound memory and understanding, and sometimes not'
It goes on to say that the Mental Deficiency Act of 1913 introduced revised definitions:
idiot - 'unable to guard themselves against physical danger'
imbecile - 'incapable of managing themselves or their affairs'
feeble minded - 'needing care or control for the protection of themselves or others'
moral defective - those possessed of 'vicious or criminal propensities'
It then goes on to say that giving birth out of wedlock was considered a form of moral insanity and hence unmarried mothers were classed as 'moral defectives'.
lunatic - retained its old definitions until 1930, when it was redefined to mean 'a person of unsound mind'
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I have been looking in some workhouse records
Can anyone tell me the differance between
Lunatic Idiot and Imbercile Please
;-)
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