Genealogy Chat

oops, sorry Mushroom, I missed your post

Yes, the people named on the website are in Oz.

I have sent several messages to the person with the website (using the link on the site) and have had no response.

My brother-in-law (whose name and children appear on the site) has also sent messages, no response to him either.

We have both advised the owner of the site that they are probably breaking the law.

My OH was a victim of identity theft a few years ago, so this is really bothering me.

Back on the subject lol

Ignorance or laziness comes to mind. Some just want U to feed them the info without question. Asking them a question confuses them.

The annoying thing is that U know that they have read your message and ignored it. ;-) :-S

"It is against the law to collect the names and details of living people in Aussie...."

Really? Against Australian law do you mean ? I'm not sure which countries are tied to "The law". Is it an international agreement ?

Scozzie...
Are the living people named in Aussie???

It is against the law to collect the names and details of living people in Aussie....
I had my kids details removed from a site,,,where som old aunt of my exhusband had my kids named and listed....

Kellie

@SylviainCanada: thanks for your advice. Apart from myself & my OH I have only got surnames in for living relatives or just two initials for inlaws.

@Scozzie: that's quite shocking about that person having your relatives on a public website.

My GR tree has living people hidden, but I also don't put some names on there... I have lots of (living) people called "Private" with "X" as a first name. I don't have my siblings on my GR tree.

I found my OH's famiily (his parents, siblings & some children) on a website. I sent a message to the owner of the tree, asked him to remove living people from a public website. He has not responded. OH has no idea who this person is :-P

Sue

I've never heard anyone frustrated because of Living relatives being hidden.


In fact, they are not really hidden .........

...................... if someone puts the name of a living person in the Search Trees and that name is on your tree but hidden by GR, then it will come up in the Search, and the person will be directed to your tree.


To be really hidden, the real name should not be used at all ................ and the person called Living Person (or some such).


I believe the same thing happens on ancestry.



sylvia

What an interesting thread. Although I have been with GR for some years I have only really got the hang of it in the last year or so. Thanks everyone for your very helpful additions - I have certainly learnt some practical tips to help me.
Do people find it annoying when someone has their living relatives hidden as I have? I have received the odd message expressing frustration. So what I do now is tell them my late mother's name so they at least know where I am in my tree. I hope newbies to GR are not using their real names in posts and that you know that you are not supposed to have living relatives in your tree without their permission? All this must help, I am sure, with preventing identity fraud etc. ;-)

Hi SylviaInCanada,

Yes she opened the post about 2 hours later.
The two people are the same people because she replied to the first message as i had queried the person that her rellie married, but the females name is mistranscribed on the marraige cert.
Both names are not very common here in Ireland and my rellie has the same surname as hers, my rellie on 1901 census says that she is a widow but she never married living with her daughter and two grandsons, but she had only one daughter and the other persons rellie married a gentleman with the same name as second grandson on census, so my query was if the grandson??? might have been the son of her rellie.
Betty.

Betty


have you checked to see that she has actually opened your message?

With respect to waiting at the desk for a response, or acknowledging a response received, I would point out that some members are based overseas. I'm in Australia and here in Western Australia we are 7 hours ahead of UK time

Allan

The other day i went into Search trees and put in a name that i think may be ass. with my family, the person wrote back saying that the person was born in 1857 which i knew, she married joe bloggs and said how many children they had, so i wrote back with information from their Marraige cert asking if that was the same person she was looking for (the same day) but got no reply not even a no or thanks. Getting tired of trying to help now.
Betty.

Alan, Another very good reason why it's best to " Do your own research " and not to just copy some one else's fantasy tree

Roy

One of my Ancestors is being researched on Ancestry. Problem is that all of those who have trees on there have the wrong person as there are 2 people of that name born in a different area of the county.

I wrote ot all of them [23 people] proving that the one they have infact never married. A search of the census records proved this and only 2 of them acknowledged my email. Strange thing is that ALL of them have changed the details.

'fast-moving'

hardly - when you consider just how many members this site is supposed to have I would say that on average there are only about 100-200 regular members who use these boards (with the exception of Find Ancestors/Living).

Very rare to get new or unique queries or new people contributing to the general chat boards.

:-)

Derek

I would have to disagree with your comment about the boards being 'fast-moving'

Compared with a few years ago - the pace now is funereal

Whilst i agree with everything above..including the name collectors and the Takers who give nothing back......and it is very annoying to do a lot of work and get no acknowledgement.there is another factor i have met personally.

O lot of people who ask for help are Newbies.....who find the Boards..ask for help and CAN'T FIND THEIR WAY BACK, because the two main Boards..this one and "Find Ancestors" are so fast moving that the original plea for help can be three pages down within 24 hours...It is ludicrous to suggest that people stay at their desk until they get a reply for a whole host of reasons....So 24 hours later our Newbies can't find their Thread........

Strictly for Newbies...........if you've posted a thread.always use "My Threads" to get back to it, and no matter how long you've been away.it will be there.......and will save you scrolling down several pages.
EDIT and some peope are fazed that when they come on the page..an old message appears at the top.......so click on "Post Date" will bring the latest message to the top.
..of course, if you're one of those name grabbing arrogant selfish and ungenerous peeps...........just move on..

Derek

Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't responded earlier, I wasn't aware that notification is not a part of the GR service and this is the first time I've used this part of GR. Have now been advised, so I apologise to everyone for the delay in responding.

I've always tried to make things simple in asking people for information, or offering to extend their information, and yes I have checked that the messages are unopened. I do agree with Porkie Pie, - minimal tree on here and nothing at all on Ancestry. Too many people just name-collect.

Ah well, they'll just have to do without the information I can supply - found by me, and verified.

Thanks again for your replies, and apologies for the delay.

Just because someone has a tree on here or on Ancestry it does not mean that they have to reply.

There are a few folk who just use these sites to store their tree, and do not necessarily want or need contact with others.

I gave up some time ago expecting any contact on either site.

And I would also like to add to Porkie Pie''s(whose thread I thoroughly agree with) thread, you can also put too much.

When contacting think KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid (much used in computer speak)
1: Name person you think you are connect through including dates if known
2: Spouse - do not go into too much detail of family or children
3: Parents of person
4: Area where your family came from

Area is something not to be discounted. One branch of my family came from Battersea - now this can be listed as London, Surrey, Lambeth and Wandsworth. So can be very confusing. :-)

When trying to contact someone who you think has got a rellie in common with you,

If you don't give enough info when you make contact then don't be surprised if you are ignored,

You may think this is bad manners but i also say it's bad manners to be too idle to ask for something without the necessary info,

We see it on the boards all the time where people are reluctant to give members the info they require to be able to help,
When asking for info or a look up and other members respond to their calls for help and then after spending possibly hours trying to gain more info, we get the response sorry i am new, when their profile says they have been a member for years
New or old members cannot be helped without the relevant info,
This can be very frustrating for people trying to help

If the person you are contacting cannot identify where the connection is they may reply with a message asking for more info to clarify the link,

I over the years got fed up of having to beg people who CONTACTED ME for info to clarify the link only to be met with a negative and sometimes abusive response
They tend to either not no but rather assume a link on a name basis only with no other info as to place, dob, death, or marriage details

I now ignore any requests that are not specific enough for me to find the link immediately,

Even with all the correct info i will only ever give minimal info to help them with their research,

My tree is my tree, it is all my own work and backed up with all the relevant documents and i have no desire to copy anyone Else's work,

I only share my tree with very close family and i only have a basic tree on hear and a couple of other sites,

My full tree is on my pc plus backup cd's

Roy