Genealogy Chat

I have been reading the thread about Wills and Probate which I have found very interesting and jogged me along to buy some I discovered years ago.
I am about to send for the wills and wonder if I need to buy both, I would be interested in what you think. I will include the info that appeared on the probate record cards at the research rooms.

13 February 1891 Administration of the personal estate of Mary Noble (wife of John Noble) late of 28 Victoria Street in the City and County of Newcastle Upon Tyne who died 27 May 1890 at the city Lunatic Asylum, Gosforth in the County of Northumberland was granted at Newcastle upon Tyne to the said John Noble of 90 Tamworth Road Newcastle upon Tyne. Millwright. Person Estate (Pounds) 31 19s.

WILL of Noble Mary of 28 Victoria Street, Elswick, Newcastle (wife of John Noble) Died 27 May 1890 at Gosforth, Newcastle. Administration Newcastle 18 June 1897 to Margaret Noble widow. effects (Pounds) 108.1s.9d Former Grant February 1891

Cheers
Anne-Marie

Take a look at Jonesey's thread i have bumpt it up the board for you

Obtaining a copy of a will

Roy

Thanks Roy, I have read it but do I need to order both, will one the say later Will give any more info than the first one apart from the difference in money

Anne-Marie

Anne-Marie, I would think that you could ask for the entry on the Probate calendar but the will its self will probably give you all the info you require?

Did you use the link he provided to gain further knowledge?

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/family-history


'Probate' is a term commonly used when talking about applying for the right to deal with a deceased person's affairs. It's sometimes called 'administering the estate'. This page contains information about what to expect if a loved one's estate is in probate.
In practice, different terms are used, depending on whether or not the deceased person left a will and where they lived. This information covers probate in England and Wales.
Different terms associated with probate If the person who has died leaves a will
In this case one or more 'executors' may be named in the will to deal with the person's affairs after their death. The executor applies for a 'grant of probate' from a section of the court knows as the probate registry. The grant is a legal document which confirms that the executor has the authority to deal with the deceased person's assets (property, money and possessions). They can use it to show they have the right to access funds, sort out finances, and collect and share out the deceased person's assets as set out in the will.
If the person who has died didn't leave a will
If there is no will, a close relative of the deceased can apply to the probate registry to deal with the estate. In this case they apply for a 'grant of letters of administration'. If the grant is given, they are known as 'administrators' of the estate. Like the grant of probate, the grant of letters of administration is a legal document which confirms the administrator's authority to deal with the deceased person's assets.

In some cases, for example, where the person who benefits is a child, the law states that more than one person must act as the administrator.

from http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/governmentcitizensandrights/death/preparation/dg_10029799

Try google for more info if you feel the need

Roy

Roy, I have to confess I didn't check that out and thanks for the other link, off to have breakfast and do a little homework.
Cheers
Anne-Marie

As it says "Administration of the personal estate .... was granted" there is no will so you won't get much more information than you already have. The later grant may be more informative.

Thank you KenSe, I will now order the second grant 'will'

Cheers
Anne-Marie

And thanks to the links I will hopefully get a better understanding of the probate records. :-)