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Help needed to find Thomas & Fran Kelly in the USA

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TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 6 May 2012 14:23

Hi
I am looking for a Thomas R Kelly, who married a lady who I think was called Frances ? in abt 1965 poss 1968 in New Jersey USA
Thomas Kelly was born in Pennsyvania in 1936 but i know nothing of his seconed wife who went by the name of Fran & was married befor to a Mr Shaffer Shafer or Shiffer or so I am told.
Sorry I don't have much to go on but If you can help me find this marridge It would be a big help to me.
Thank you :-)

DF

DF Report 6 May 2012 18:58

Hi,
I had a look on Ancestry for you but couldn't find any relevant records.
Deb

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2012 19:49

Do you have any other info on him, such as parents/siblings/DOB/death etc?

x

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 6 May 2012 21:15

Hi DF & Gins
His Father name was either Woodrow Kelly born 1902 in Pennsylvania, USA or Thomas Woodrow Kelly born 1917 also in Pennsylvania, USA. It may sound strange but I think he told a lot of untruths in his day as I think this two chaps are the same person. His mother was Nellie Irene Johnson born 11 Oct 1913 in USA .

Thomas Kelly ( the one I am asking about was born 19 March 1936 in Pennsylvania.

Gee

Gee Report 6 May 2012 22:28

Long shot, but what the heck


1930 United States Federal Census
about Woodrow Kelly
Name: Woodrow Kelly
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Race: White
Home in 1930: Longview, Cowlitz, Washington
View Map
Street Address: 17th Avenue
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Nellie Kelly
Father's Birthplace: United States
[PA, USA]
Mother's Birthplace: United States
[PA, USA]
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Woodrow Kelly 27
Nellie Kelly 16

Line Number: 1

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 6 May 2012 23:18

Thank you Gins That is the Woodrow Kelly. It's his son,s seconed marrige I am looking for though, that of Thomas R Kelly born March 19th 1936 in Pennsylvania, I am being told that he got married to his seconed wife in New Jersey in about 1965 or 1968 to a lady that went by the of Fran, so that could be Frances or something. Thomas R Kelly was called Tommy & his first wife was called Yvonne.

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 May 2012 04:50

If you don't have the 1930 image, magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/15thcensus2487unit#page/n137/mode/1up


Try looking up the appropriate collection at:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 7 May 2012 14:32

Hi mgnv Thank you for the links you gave me. I have looked at them both, That is the correct Woodrow Kelly but the search link you sent won't find the people I am looking for so I searched for another 4 names I had in my tree & the search could not find them either.
What I am looking for is Woodrows son's 2nd marridge. That being Thomas R Kelly (known as Tommy) born 1936 in Pennsylvania, who was living in NewJersey at the time, Idon't know anything about his 2nd wife other then people called her Fran. They married at some time between 1963 & 1969
If you can think of anthing else, Please let me know. Thank you.

Gee

Gee Report 7 May 2012 17:46

What was the name of his first wife?

Im presuming its Nellie something or other as shown on the 1930 census?

Is that your tree on Ancestry?

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 7 May 2012 18:17

I do have a tree on Ancestry,
Nellie was woodrows wife & Thomas Kelly's mother. It's Thomas Kelly 2nd marriage I am looking for. The name of his first wife was Yvonne. All I know about his seconed wife is that people called her Fran.
It's the marriage of Thomas Kelly (known as Tommy) & Fran (possibly Frances) in New Jersey some time between 1963 & 1969, that I am needing to find.
Hope this helps

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 9 May 2012 22:10

nudge ;-)

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 May 2012 09:16

There is a suggestion that recent marriages and other Vital events aren't availble for internet searches, and possibly not even in person as the participants may still be living.

However, have a look at the site given below, and follow the various links.

http://explore.bcls.lib.nj.us/content.php?pid=7253

It does quote

"New Jersey Marriages, 1678-1985
Name index to marriage records from New Jersey. Microfilm of some original records available at New Jersey State Archives and LDS Family History Centers."

But that link takes you to familysearch which you may already have considered.

There are other links to various newspapers which you could try?

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 11 May 2012 21:46


Hi +++DetEcTive+++ I have just been on the two links you kindly gave me in your last post. That is the correct Woodrow kelly(ie Thomas Kelly's father. The other link is to search for people but it does not seem to give the infomation as it can't find any info Thomas R Kelly born in Pa 1936 getting married in NewJersey between the years of 1953 - 1959. But thank you for trying to help me.