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Hi, Gail.

Just sent you a personal message with an attachment - the marriage of Harvey and Olive.

Don't know if you already have it or not but now that GR has the attachment function I may as well use it.

I notice that Harvey states he is a bachelor???

I have also sent you his first marriage.

I shall keep looking..........

Good Morning Lynski,

Yes I have found all 4 as one of them was my father. My father went through life with no birth certificate and the surname Minshull (my maiden name). I then found his correct birth name Neal which didn't go down very well :-(

Before my father died nearly 4 yeras ago he asked me to find his family roots.....this is easier said than done with geneology.

Gail

Have you found any deaths for the 4 children?

Yes Lynski this is my family :-) I can not trace William Moore back to Wales I have tried and tried without success.

Olive had 4 children to Abraham Neal and on my fathers birth certificate it says she was married to Abraham...I could not trace a marriage cert.

She put my father and one of his brothers into a childrens home and told them their surnames were Minshull (which thet were in actual fact Neal's) see it so confusing I am going mad with it.

You're welcome.

Is this Olive in 1901 census?

MOORE, William Head Married M 53 1848 Gas Engine Repairer Northop, Flintshire, Nth Wales VIEW
MOORE, Hannah Wife Married F 43 1858 Chelsea, London VIEW
MOORE, Arthur Son Single M 15 1886 Gas Engine Apprentice Chelsea, London VIEW
MOORE, Olive Daughter Single F 13 1888 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Ernest Son Single M 12 1889 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Rose Daughter Single F 9 1892 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Mary Daughter Single F 7 1894 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Walter Son Single M 6 1895 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Gladys Daughter Single F 4 1897 School Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MOORE, Ethel Daughter Single F 1 1900 Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3490
Folio: 5
Page: 2
Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: West Derby
Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Frost Street, West Derby
County: Lancashire

Harvey was not my maternal grandfather but Olive was my maternal grandmother.

After having 4 further children out of wedlock to an Abraham Neal I lost track of her as she used the names Moore/Minshull or Neal so gets very confusing :-(

Hi Lynski,

Thank you for all of your help, I am so glad I posted my message

Gail :-)

First marriage -

Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
Edwards Caroline W. Derby 8b 609
Minshull Harvey W. Derby 8b 609



Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
Edwards Caroline Selina W. Derby 8b 484

1881 census -
MINSHULL, Robert Head Married M 55 1826 Saddler Park Gate, Cheshire VIEW
MINSHULL, Sarah Wife Married F 52 1829 Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Harvey Son Single M 17 1864 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3655
Folio: 42
Page: 24
Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: Everton
Municipal Borough:
Address: 102, Field Street, Everton
County: Lancashire

1871 census -
MINSHULL, Robert Head M 45 1826 Cheshire
MINSHULL, Sarah Wife F 42 1829 Lancashire
MINSHULL, Harvey Son M 2 1869 Lancashire

Piece: 3840
Folio: 8
Page: 14
Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: West Derby
Municipal Borough: Liverpool
Address: Phythian Street, West Derby, Liverpool
County: Lancashire

Births Mar 1869 (>99%)
MINSHULL Harvey W. Derby 8b 359

That is the marriage of Harvey to Olive in 1909.

Here is Harvey's death -

Name: MINSHULL, Harvey
Registration district: Liverpool South
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1952
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:83
Volume no: 10D
Page no: 511

You are so quick its unbelievable!!

On the death of Harvey above...how did you know that Olive's maiden name was Moore?

Name: MINSHULL, Vincent Harvey
Registration district: Sefton South
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1995
Month of registration: August
Date of Birth:5 January 1911
District no: 0321
Reg no: SS36
Ent no: 282
DOR: 89

???????????

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Minshull John Moore Wolstanton 6b 207

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Minshull Harold J Moore King's L. 4b 527

Deaths Dec 1903 (>99%)
Minshull Caroline Selina 31 W. Derby 8b 378

Marriage -

Name: MINSHULL, Harvey
Registration district: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1909
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8B
Page no: 521

MOORE, Olive

Hi Lynski,

Wow that was quick!! Thank you so much for the information. I have been trying to trace my Grandmother for a very long time and have just decided to try again :-)

Gail

1901 census -
MINSHULL, Harvey Head Married M 32 1869 Night Watchman Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Caroline Wife Married F 29 1872 Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Ethel Daughter Single F 6 1895 Scotland VIEW

Piece: 3491
Folio: 89
Page: 31
Registration District: West Derby
Civil Parish: West Derby
Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Vane Street, West Derby
County: Lancashire

MINSHULL, Harvey Head Married M 42 1869 Theatre Attendant Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Olivwe Wife Married3 years F 24 1887 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Ethel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Arthur Son M 2 1909 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
MINSHULL, Vincent Harvey Son M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW

RG number: RG14
Piece: 22541
Reference: RG14PN22541 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED28 SN113
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: South Everton
Enumeration District: 28
Parish: Everton
Address: 3 Napier St Liverpool
County: Lancashire

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