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Hello

just trying to get to know Olive is this her and Harvey in 1911 /

Olive Minshull
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Napier St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Derby


Harvey Minshull 42
Olive Minshull 24
Ethel Minshull 16
Arthur Minshull 2
Vincent Harvey Minshull 3/12


marriage
Olive Moore
Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1909
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Harvey Minshull
Father's Name: William Moore
Spouse Father's Name: Robert Minshull


oops I see this is on your other thread
.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1301545

Hi everyone who as helped me, I will try and explain my very very difficult family tree:

Have orig certs for the following:
James Alexander Neal 1914- mother Olive Neal formerly Moore
William Frederick Neal 1916- Mother as above
May Frances Neal 1919- Mother as above- Can find nothing else on May
Albert Edward Neal 1921- Mother as above (my father)
George Henry Neal 1923- Mother as above

Olive (my grandmother) never married the above childrens fathers...please note her 1st sons fathers name was William Alexander and was the brother of Abraham who was the father of the last 4 children. It gets worse!!

Their mother put William & Albert into a childrens home when my father was 6 years old. ( Have paperwork)


Olive(my grandmother) has had the alias Moore & Neal

Have orig cert:
Olive was born in 1887 to Hannah Stoneham- no fathers name on the birth cert. She had 2 brothers & 2 sisters born Stonehams and 2 sisters & 1 brother called Moore....I think she took on the Moore name when her mother married William Moore in 1895.

In 1909 Olive Moore/Neal/Stoneham had actually got married to a Harvey Minshull so when she put her 2 children into the childrens home she registered the kids surname as Minshull.........as you have guessed my father went all through life with a surname Minshull with no birth cert until I discovered his real surname was Neal!!!

People say you find skeletons in your family tree but I think I have found enough (mainly my grandmother) within 2 generations :-)

I have no idea where to turn to find any info on my Aunt May Frances Neal, my grandmother Olive Minshull/Moore/Neal/Stoneham.

Sorry for going on folks but as you can see I am really struggling.

Related thread for information -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1301545


Gail,
Check your Inbox under Messages above.

Not seeing Abraham and Olive's marriage.

Rose

Did the family stay together? If she wasn't around when your dad was young she either died or was adopted.

Rose

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Deaths Jun 1948 (>99%)
Neal May F 27 Ealing 5e 171

The informant might not have know her exact date of birth???

Hi patchem,

My father was born after in 1921 also in the West Derby area.

Thanks

Was your Father born before or after her?
Thanks

Hi,

It is the latter of the two. Fathers name Abraham Neal and mothers name Olive Neal formerly Moore.

Thanks

Hi MarieCeleste,

She was born West Derby Registration District in the sub district of Everton. I hold a copy of her birth certificate.
I have looked on freebmd but could not find anything or else I got boggled eyed. I will look again.

Regards

Hello Gail, firstly - where was she born?

Have you searched FreeBMD for any potential marriages or deaths? http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Two possibles for her birth:


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1918
Neal May F Neal Kings N 6d 12

Births Dec 1919
Neal May F Moore W. Derby 8b 1033

This was my fathers sister he never knew he had. I can not locate May after her birth, does anyone have any ideas?

Many Thanks